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I still can't get over the fact, that if I want to play a "life giver" character, a someone who restores life to the dead, I basically HAVE to play Razmiran priest or face financial ruin.
A cleric (shaman, witch etc.) pays 11000gp to cast Resurrection+Restoration per person and that's just not feasible to do if you plan to raise dead on a larger scale.
A razmiran priest, a someone who is only pretending to be cleric without a god backing them up gets do this more often and for free?!?! How is that any balanced?
What is the solution to this according to you? Do we abandon material components all together? Do we nerf Razmiran priest? Do we pretend like everything is as it should be?
Or do we make up petty nonsense in the style of "Gods don't want people to be raised from dead" (please forgive my anger).
I assume he's talking about false focus? Maybe? Except, that has a 100 gp limit on bypassing material components........
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He's not crazy, it's the archetype:
At 9th level, the false priest can use his own magic to power spell completion and spell trigger items that use divine spells. He expends a sorcerer spell slot that is at least 1 level higher than the level of the spell he’s trying to activate, then makes a Use Magic Device check. If he succeeds, the item’s spell occurs and the item or charge is not expended. If he fails, nothing happens. Whether he succeeds or fail, his spell slot is expended.
You acquire a scroll of raise dead and a scroll of restoration and you can use them indefinitely at no cost.
Bonus points if you have a shaman buddy with scribe scroll and Arcane enlightenment, you can now cast any divine or arcane spell of 8th level or lower component free!
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He's not crazy, it's the archetype:
At 9th level, the false priest can use his own magic to power spell completion and spell trigger items that use divine spells. He expends a sorcerer spell slot that is at least 1 level higher than the level of the spell he’s trying to activate, then makes a Use Magic Device check. If he succeeds, the item’s spell occurs and the item or charge is not expended. If he fails, nothing happens. Whether he succeeds or fail, his spell slot is expended.
Wow. Who thought that was a balanced ability? It definitely needs not to work on spells with expensive material components.
Wow. Who thought that was a balanced ability? It definitely needs not to work on spells with expensive material components.
^ My thoughts exactly.
Can I request that we flag this as FAQ candidate? For a 9th level ability this really seems OP, similarly I wouldn't mind getting rid of material components all together.
It won't make much difference. A Wizard / Sorc / Witch can also just use Blood Money to cast restoration or raise dead (Using limited wish for sorc/wizard) at no real cost.
He's talking about false channel. It lets you use a scroll to cast a spell using one of your slots without expending the scroll. Since raise dead and restoration have the material cost included into the price of the scroll once you pay for it once you don't have to pay for it again using this ability.
It won't make much difference. A Wizard / Sorc / Witch can also just use Blood Money to cast restoration or raise dead (Using limited wish for sorc/wizard) at no real cost.
Except they can't.
Read here.
It won't make much difference. A Wizard / Sorc / Witch can also just use Blood Money to cast restoration or raise dead (Using limited wish for sorc/wizard) at no real cost.
Except they can't.
Read here.
Limited wish has a casting time of 1 standard action.
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It's easier/cleaner to rule out a spell (blood money) from your campaign than an entire archetype; the archetype should be fixed. It's not PFS-legal, is it?
If you want to FAQ it, make a post with just the core question in it ("does this work with spells with expensive material components")---your OP was kind of confusing and came at things sideways. C.f. The Rules FAQ and How to Use It on FAQ'ing, esp. "What's the best way to get a FAQ answered?"
Limited wish has a casting time of 1 standard action.It won't make much difference. A Wizard / Sorc / Witch can also just use Blood Money to cast restoration or raise dead (Using limited wish for sorc/wizard) at no real cost.
Except they can't.
Read here.
Limited wish can only replicate spells of 5th lever or lower. Raise Dead? Maybe. Resurrection? Definitely not.
P.S. Sorry, edit.
It's easier/cleaner to rule out a spell (blood money) from your campaign than an entire archetype; the archetype should be fixed. It's not PFS-legal, is it?
If you want to FAQ it, make a post with just the core question in it ("does this work with spells with expensive material components")---your OP was kind of confusing and came at things sideways. C.f. The Rules FAQ and How to Use It on FAQ'ing, esp. "What's the best way to get a FAQ answered?"
Reposted. Here is the link: http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2tmyf?FAQ-False-Channel-and-the-Razmiran-Priest