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This is with regard to a Kitsune fox form bite attack.
(1) According to:
http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/monsters/universalMonsterRules.html#tabl e-3-1-natural-attacks-by-size
bite attacks are B/S/P whichever is most beneficial
(2) According to:
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/weapon-finesse-combat---final
Natural weapons are considered light weapons
(3) According to:
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/rules-for-monsters/universal-monster-rules #TOC-Natural-Attacks
you do 1.5 STR damage bonus if you only have one natural attack
(4) According to:
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/slashing-grace-combat
you can apply slashing grace with a "light or one handed slashing weapon" which a bite attack is. Also, according to the FAQ for this, "Attacking with natural weapons beyond the weapon you chose for Slashing Grace also does not work," which also makes it clear one can use a natural weapon, they just don't want you using two.
The actual question: So can a kitsune in fox form use slashing grace to attack with the bite for 1.5 DEX bonus damage?
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I'm hesitant on Bite because of the "wield one-handed" language, but the FAQ allowing Natural Weapons may supersede that.
As for 1.5 Dex Damage, here is another relevant FAQ:
Replacing Strength Modifiers with Dexterity
All told, I would say yes, but I'm not a GM.
Edit: Wow, nevermind, read that wrong. It's probably no. I'm really confused now. It would depend on whether a Bite's damage multiplier is more akin to two-handing, or as "any other effect." Sorry for not being super helpful, but I hope adding that FAQ into the mix contributes at least a little. If nothing else, it's one precedent for 1.5x Dexterity Damage. :(
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makes it clear one can use a natural weapon, they just don't want you using two.
That isn't clearly what you think. It could be what you thing, but it could also be saying that the weapon chosen isn't natural and you are not permitted to attack with your secondary natural weapons.
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makes it clear one can use a natural weapon, they just don't want you using two.That isn't clearly what you think. It could be what you thing (sic), but it could also be saying that the weapon chosen isn't natural and you are not permitted to attack with your secondary natural weapons.
From:
http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2sk2o&page=5?Slashing-Grace-and-otherwise-o %20ccupied#208
Mark Seifter (Designer): "I can confirm, through my conversation with the PDT about natural weapons in the wording of the FAQ, that the FAQ's use of the singular "weapon" in "Attacking with natural weapons beyond the weapon you chose for Slashing Grace also does not work" means that you pick one claw, even if you are an eidolon with eight claws, etc, as Imbicatus surmises. If you use something to make iteratives all with the same claw, as Lune suggested, then that works, though FCT doesn't seem to work for that."
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nennafir, when you put links in your posts, place them in the [url ] [/url ] tags (without the spaces. That will allow people to follow the link instead of having to copy/paste it.
Use [url =link]description[/url ] to include the link within a sentence.
It looks much nicer that way and the links can be followed.
:)
Thanks! I've started to do this with more recent posts...