PSF Clarification: Reverse Engineering?

[Avatarded]

I have a question about creating exactly the items I want. As a quick clarification, however, this is NOT a question about loot that has been generated already. Alright, now that that's out of the way, here we go.

In the upgrading magic items, or more specifically, reverse engineering items for qualities not listed separately. The example that brought this question to mind was the Belt of Hurling (lesser). Said belt grants a +2 bonus to strength, and the ability to use Strength to hit with thrown weapons instead of Dexterity.

According to the wondrous item creation rules we know that adding a secondary effect to a wondrous item costs the effect's base price, and 50% of the cheaper effect's base price as a sort of stacking penalty.

The above belt has a retail price of 14,000 gold, and we know from the wondrous item creation rules that an enhancement bonus to an attribute is 4,000 gold. To find the stacking penalty we determine which one is less in price, and I'll spare you the math on that, but it's the strength bonus.

With that we know then that the Hurling part of the item should cost 8,000 gold. Now my question, which took this long to get to is: in PFS games, can we reverse engineer items like this to get just the parts out of it that we actually want?

In any other game setting it'd be a trivial question because so much of crafting is just swept under the rug anyway. But, with PFS a massive amount of restrictions have been levied on play with regards to the rules, and I want to make I'm in compliance.

[Jeff Merola]

Nope. You get the full item (separate, uncombined) or none of it.

[Avatarded]

Jeff Merola wrote:

Nope. You get the full item (separate, uncombined) or none of it.

What I'm asking is: can I just create the separate, uncombined part I want. Specifically, I could rephrase the question to say:

"After reverse engineering the item per the crafting rules. I would like to create a Belt of Hurling, as opposed to a belt of Mighty Hurling, lesser. Can I do that?"

The problem is that "belt of Hurling" does not exist as a standalone item in the books, even though the book tells us exactly how to make it using an existing item, and encourages upgrading existing items into combined items such as Belt of Mighty Hurling, lesser.

The essence of the question is: is this encouragement meant to be taken as two-directional, since it doesn't directly state one way or the other about that (so far as I can find anyway).

[Serisan]

And the answer is no. If the item does not exist in a legal source, you cannot use it. A "belt of hurling" doesn't exist at all. Thus, it is not PFS legal.

[James Risner]

You get the item as printed in a book, only.

You don't build the item with separate parts.