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So in my Rise of the Runelords game we just defeated Xanesha and have her spear.
Our party Magus wants to use it. I said fine, but it's at a -2 due to the size of the item, it's a large sized weapon.
The player has asked if a weapon smith could alter it so the haft is shorter and would be usable. My gut answer is, "yes they could, but the spear would then lose any magic properties it has in it" or some such.
So before I send the email, can anyone confirm for me that a magical weapon could or could not be resized to be used by a player character without damaging the item's abilities.
I know magical clothing and jewelry will resize to the user, but not weapons. Is there a rule I am missing? Could a weapon smith alter it and not damage it?
Advice and opinions welcomed.
I couldn't find any rules on the matter. It is up to your discretion.
However, your magus really isn't asking much to have the weapon resized. Your caveat, in my opinion, is far too strict - he may as well just buy a normal sized spear in that case for all the good it does him. It would be more honest to simply tell him 'no' in this case.
I would simply let him resize the spear and adjust the damage dice as appropriate. This presumably comes up a lot in golarion after all.
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I have a standing houserule in my adventures/campaigns that magical equipment automagically resizes to fit the wielder. I think of the scene at the opening of LotR where the One Rings shrinks to fit Isildur.
this accomplishes two things: 1) it doesn't deny a PC the ability to use a magic thing just because it came from a creature bigger/smaller than they are, and 2) it cuts down on the amount of shopping because more equipment is readily and immediately usable.
-Skeld
There are some weapon properties from the Giant Hunter's Handbook that cause a weapon to resize to its wielder.
If you look closer at Xanesha, though, she has the undersized weapons Special Quality, so the spear is already Medium.
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I'm not finding any rules on it, so I'd say he needs to find a mage who is also a weaponsmith, or a master weaponsmith with Masterful Crafting so they can make magic weapons. I'd then say it costs a quarter of the value of the weapon to have it resized if you want to keep the enchantment.
That's just how I'd rule it.
Magic armors can have an attribute that lets them resize, but weapons don't. Magic boots/rings/amulets/cloaks automatically resize though.
jihilahd,
There is nothing in the rules regarding resizing magic weapons.
However, if you want to borrow from another principle, the peicemeal armor rules (Ultimate Combat p199), only the major portion of an item (typically the torso peice) is carrying the magic. So, resizing a spear (the haft only) should not affect the magic of the weapon.
Alternately, you can provide a magical solution similar to the spell Shrink Item. (Allow it to affect magic items and have it change it only one size.)
Skeld, it is not a house rule that magical equipment (other than weapons and armor) resizes to fit the wearer.
Size and Magic Items
When an article of magic clothing or jewelry is discovered, most of the time size shouldn’t be an issue. Many magic garments are made to be easily adjustable, or they adjust themselves magically to the wearer. Size should not keep characters of various kinds from using magic items.
There may be rare exceptions, especially with race specific items.
Armor and Weapon Sizes: Armor and weapons that are found at random have a 30% chance of being Small (01–30), a 60% chance of being Medium (31–90), and a 10% chance of being any other size (91–100).
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There are some weapon properties from the Giant Hunter's Handbook that cause a weapon to resize to its wielder.
If you look closer at Xanesha, though, she has the undersized weapons Special Quality, so the spear is already Medium.
Thanks, yeah I had just reread that. So dork that I am, I will heartily eat my post....
Short answer? It's only 1,000 gp as long as it has some metal on it.
Wow, that's super handy. My players in RotRL are to the point where they're finding tons of Large weapons and I've been trying to figure out a good way to let them use some of the items they're finding. That fits the bill nicely.
Those are cool.
I would have come up with some kind of magic gauntlets that allow you to wield weapons one size category larger than you.
In 3.5 there was a 5th level cleric/wizard spell that had a 250gp material component cost that could resize gear. Google is failing me at the moment.
Those are cool.
I would have come up with some kind of magic gauntlets that allow you to wield weapons one size category larger than you.
Neat as those would be, that's sadly a standing +3 or +3.5 on damage. Any martial character, especially one with a two-handed weapon, would scoop that up in a heartbeat.
Still, those slivers mentioned ... sounds like a good idea. (I ran into this issue in RotRL, but the other end--small magic weapons. The GM wasn't quite as generous. Ah well.)
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Skeld, it is not a house rule that magical equipment (other than weapons and armor) resizes to fit the wearer.
Size and Magic Items
When an article of magic clothing or jewelry is discovered, most of the time size shouldn’t be an issue. Many magic garments are made to be easily adjustable, or they adjust themselves magically to the wearer. Size should not keep characters of various kinds from using magic items.
There may be rare exceptions, especially with race specific items.
Armor and Weapon Sizes: Armor and weapons that are found at random have a 30% chance of being Small (01–30), a 60% chance of being Medium (31–90), and a 10% chance of being any other size (91–100).
Cool. I apply it to weapons and armor too. I don't usually let litle things like rules stand in the way though. ;)
-Skeld
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In the Giant Hunter's Handbook, page 33 is the level 3 Sorcerer Wizard Spell Resize Item. Material component is Silver Calipers worth 25gp. The duration however is only 24h. It can be made permanent with permanency for 7500gp.
A potentially cheaper "permanent" solution is the Resizing weapon property for at 4000gp or for armor, Fitting armor property for only 2000gp.
Another option, Ring of Perfect Sizing, 16000gp, lets you resize one weapon or suit of armor to the wearer's size. All of these are on page 33 of the Giant Hunter's Handbook.