The Freshest Meta in Pathfinder, or How to Combat Campaign Boredom


Pathfinder First Edition General Discussion


So here I am, at the table with my buddies, having just finished a one-and-done level 14 game as a Geo/Aerokineticist (deliciously broken, by the way). I jokingly ask my GM if I could play as a rampant butterfly catcher with some kind of magical/enchanted/silly butterfly net.

Then I got to thinking.

Wouldn't a nice, easy character to play consist of a few rouge talents, some stealth and combat manoeuvre bonuses, and a butterfly net?

But this butterfly net is so much more sinister: that's right folks, make it a Bag of Holding on a stick.

So, would a medium- or large-sized Bag of Holding affixed firmly to a pole basically be able to one-shot any given creature dependent on breath, so long as the creature's head fits? Also, enlarge spells could be used for bigger baddies.

What does the peanut gallery think? I'm dying to try this out in my GM's new low-mid level campaign.

Just imagine. Shadowdancer + CMB + Stealth + ??? = Profit


It's your GM you should be talking to, because obviously you're looking for something here that (1) pushes the intent of the magic item and (2) may result in other players enjoying the game less if he does allow it.

There are plenty of ways to 'break' this game and every other RPG out there. The point is that you're collaborating with your group (including the GM) to have fun. This may be a fun idea for you, but make sure everyone else is onboard. Also, be willing to have your GM adjust his initial ruling later if he or other players are finding that the concept is ruining the experience somehow.


As a DM I wouldn't allow a bag of holding to be used in such a manner, not a big enough mouth. I see a BoH like a snake eating a meal, you have to carefully slide the body in. Now a Portable Hole is bigger and could possibly be used to do something.


Well, a bag of holding has a big enough mouth to do this sort of thing, that wouldn't really work for Pathfinder. Last I read (though this could have changed in recent times) I was under the impression a bag of holding stores about 10 minutes of air.


As a GM with mischevious players....this would give me f****** nightmares...


Cast on eternal flame onto an object, put it into the bag, and leave it there forever to consume oxygen. Proceed to terrorize the campaign.


As far as RAW goes , while you can actually put people inside a bag of holding , you cant use it in a stick to do it like that.

It is a bad idea on all sides , first this OP , since you pretty much kills one target , second this is costy like hell , since anyone with a sword can cut your bag from the inside , which would make it useless.


Bag of Holding wrote:
If living creatures are placed within the bag, they can survive for up to 10 minutes, after which time they suffocate.
Bag of Holding wrote:
If a bag of holding is overloaded, or if sharp objects pierce it (from inside or outside), the bag immediately ruptures and is ruined, and all contents are lost forever.

Congratulations, you've found a way to kill commoners who don't bring daggers everywhere they go. Though it takes 10 minutes, unlike a sword strike that does it within 6 seconds.


Rub-Eta wrote:
Bag of Holding wrote:
If living creatures are placed within the bag, they can survive for up to 10 minutes, after which time they suffocate.
Bag of Holding wrote:
If a bag of holding is overloaded, or if sharp objects pierce it (from inside or outside), the bag immediately ruptures and is ruined, and all contents are lost forever.
Congratulations, you've found a way to kill commoners who don't bring daggers everywhere they go. Though it takes 10 minutes, unlike a sword strike that does it within 6 seconds.

Yeah, that right there is your biggest problem. If you actually do capture something within your bag of holding, it is immediately going to attack the inside and destroy the bag. Granted, it kills itself in the process, but now you're out a decent amount of gold to kill something that probably could have been taken out easier and cheaper.

This is all assuming you were able to overcome the creature's CMD, which is what I'd require to even be able to get the bag over the creature's head.


Maybe the mancatcher weapon has some mechanics that could be yoinked for this purpose.

As people point out, the suffocation would take too long for it to be viable. But you could always fill it with a Bottle of Air and a pile of snakes beforehand...


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replace bag of holding with bag of devouring


Darigaaz has the right idea hahaha.


Rub-Eta wrote:
Bag of Holding wrote:
If a bag of holding is overloaded, or if sharp objects pierce it (from inside or outside), the bag immediately ruptures and is ruined, and all contents are lost forever.

Anyone got a Tarrasque sized bag of holding? Beat it down, stick it in the bag. Pierce the bag from outside and all contents are lost forever.

Great way to get rid of those things that 'cannot be killed' or 'cannot be destroyed' and such.

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