Will Undead Lord's 'Unlife Healer' work on Dhampirs?


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My gaming group is forming up a Dhampir party for an evil campaign and one person is thinking of playing the Undead Lord archetype for Cleric. Our GM is saying that the Undead Lord's 'Unlife Healer' ability won't work on the Dhampir because they are not undead as it is specifically stated in the ability. We are saying yes they will because the Dhampir is considered to be undead when subject to positive and negative energy.

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JanitorMan wrote:
My gaming group is forming up a Dhampir party for an evil campaign and one person is thinking of playing the Undead Lord archetype for Cleric. Our GM is saying that the Undead Lord's 'Unlife Healer' ability won't work on the Dhampir because they are not undead as it is specifically stated in the ability. We are saying yes they will because the Dhampir is considered to be undead when subject to positive and negative energy.

Dhampirs are technically living, not undead. The ability does specify undead. By letter of the law, no it does not work. GM could house rule it, if he wanted to.

Their reaction to positive and negative energy has no bearing on the ability.


yes it would work because they count as undead when it comes to positive and negative energy


I would say it should work unless the ability (spell, supernatural ability, etc.) being used specifies otherwise.


I agree it should work

they react as undead do so by that ruling it would function the same

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The ability only works on undead.

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The ability only works on undead. It does not affect living creatures.


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Check this FAQ out.

It specifically states that Negatove Energy Affinity (which the dhampir has) applies to all affects which affect undead, including Inflict spells and Negative Channels.

This means Unlife Healer as well.


I disagree; by RAW this does work on a Dhampir. The wording of Unlife Healer is that it bolsters any abilities that are specifically used to heal undead, not that it increases the benefits incurred by undead targets. This is an important distinction, because it is the ability that is being boosted. The Dhampir's ability allows him to be targeted when he normally wouldn't be, and doesn't change the fact that the ability was boosted.

Edit - and Ninja'd by a FAQ that renders the whole argument moot :-P


well with that faq the question is answered


Chris Ballard wrote:
The ability only works on undead. It does not affect living creatures.

And by reading the errata on Negative Energy Affinity, Dhampirs are treated as Undead.

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