The Medium Archmage Spirit Seance Boon.

[Mcarvin]

My question is simple. Does the seance boon benefit for the archmage spirit add to ability score damage?

"Seance Boon: Your damaging spells deal an additional 2 points of damage of the same type that they would normally deal to each target."

Here is an example. If I cast greater oneiric horror (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/o/oneiric-horror) will the spell deal 3 str damage every round they fail their will save?

[KingOfAnything]

Good question, but I don't think so. The general term "damage" is almost always assumed to be hit point damage.

[Mcarvin]

BTW, I appreciate any opinions =) we all have them!
But please make it known (not that kingofanything didn't...) if it's opinion/yourownruling or referenced rules text.

[My Self]

This is like a Rogue sneak attacking or a Paladin smiting with Calcific Touch. I'm pretty sure the intent is that you only get the boosts with regular damage, not ability damage.

[Chess Pwn]

I think was a post or in the rules or something that shows that ability damage is different from damage.

[Mcarvin]

I'll note that "...of the same type that they would normally deal..." clause in the ability text may set this apart from rogue or paladin ability text.

Neither the Paladin or Rogue have this qualifier.

[Mcarvin]

Many spells indicate "energy type" when referring to fire, lightning, cold, etc type of damage.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/d/dragon-s-breath
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/e/elemental-aura
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/metamagic-feats/elemental-spell-metamagic

[KingOfAnything]

If you are set on something akin to official, you should go ask Mark in his thread.

Type can mean physical damage, not just energy damage. Type never refers to ability damage, though.

[Mcarvin]

I'm a bit rusty on this forum... where can I find Mark's thread?

BTW, thanks for the help KingOfAnything.

[Mcarvin]

Also, I found this very interesting

In the "Damage" section it talks about "types" of damage.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/basics-ability-scores/glossary

[KingOfAnything]

Mark designed the Medium, so he can give you some insight on his intention. link

[Mcarvin]

On the topic of the officially kept PRD...

In "Designing Spells" under "Hierarchy of Attack Effects" the possible effects are organized. Damaging effects include examples like fireball and poison. Fireball being an example of an effect dealing energy damage. Poison being an effect dealing ability score damage.

http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/ultimateMagic/magic/designingSpells.html #damage

Being that energy damage effects and ability score damaging effects are both categorized under "damage effects" provides support for this ability to be applicable to ability score damage types.

[Link-Bot]

Mcarvin wrote:

Many spells indicate "energy type" when referring to fire, lightning, cold, etc type of damage.

Dragon's Breath
Elemental Aura
Elemental Spell

Mcarvin wrote:

Also, I found this very interesting

In the "Damage" section it talks about "types" of damage.

LINK

Mcarvin wrote:

On the topic of the officially kept PRD...

In "Designing Spells" under "Hierarchy of Attack Effects" the possible effects are organized. Damaging effects include examples like fireball and poison. Fireball being an example of an effect dealing energy damage. Poison being an effect dealing ability score damage.

LINK

Being that energy damage effects and ability score damaging effects are both categorized under "damage effects" provides support for this ability to be applicable to ability score damage types.

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