Looking for fun with Templates - OP ideas welcome!


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So I have been playing Pathfinder for almost a year now, and I am trying to work on a new character for a future campaign. We are allowed to add free templates up to +2 CR. I want this guy to be as OP as possible while still being fun to play with the following basic conditions:

Current Scores; 18, 16, 15, 15, 14, 10
Race; Either Human, Half-elf, or Aasimar
Level: 5-10 (Not yet decided by DM)
Two Traits
Alignment: Any Good
Some Third-party content is permitted, but mostly with templates (Preferably Acquired Templates).

As for my past experience, I have so far only played a Summoner for most of my time in-game, and he was Half-Celestial at level 17 (which was SOOO much fun!). I have created builds for a Wizard, Bard, Hunter, Ninja, Cleric, Fighter, Magus, Arcanist, and Investigator.

I'm looking for ideas with any of these classes, as well as similar ones; particularly on the subject of templates and feats. Role-play additions are also welcome (such as personality ideas). And I'm not afraid to add more than +2 CR to templates. I want to get an idea of which of these will be the most OP.

And DO NOT tell me to use a synthesist Summoner! (I despise that build with a burning, purple, passion!)

Scarab Sages

Swarm-blooded from the Advanced Bestiary (it's 300 pages of templates by Green Ronin, very solid 3pp) would be incredibly interesting as a PC. When you get injured with a slashing weapon, your blood creates a swarm (the details of which depend on the particular creature, etc.). So for instance, I added a nanite swarm-blooded template to the boss of the whole Iron Gods AP.

I think it's a CR+1, but it also scales with the hit dice of the creature to keep it interesting.


+2 CR? There's at least thirty to select from but some choice options are the Halfies and the Element-based templates. Class Templates like Bard, Ranger, and Rogue are even available for that semi-Gestalt feeling.

Dire and Fey alone are hilarious for what they enable. Unless you are fighting some badass/imbalanced threats, I hope you enjoy your interactive cheesecake factory tour of the campaign you are about to steamroll.


Avaricious wrote:

+2 CR? There's at least thirty to select from but some choice options are the Halfies and the Element-based templates. Class Templates like Bard, Ranger, and Rogue are even available for that semi-Gestalt feeling.

Dire and Fey alone are hilarious for what they enable. Unless you are fighting some badass/imbalanced threats, I hope you enjoy your interactive cheesecake factory tour of the campaign you are about to steamroll.

The Fey one sounds interesting, but I can't use Dire (it's for animals, and not an acquired template).

And could you explain what you mean by "interactive cheesecake factory tour"?


Certainly. And technically we ARE animals. But I suppose that is what the Humanoid distinction is for.

Interactive means you are involved in it as a participant.

Cheese: A reference to an powerful unit or faction or strategy in tabletop or video games

A Cakewalk in terms of difficulty.

Factory in terms of assets and tools available.

Tour as in it will progress by itself.

Alacritous is fun because it is essentially a Feat Package with constantly on Freedom of Movement and two modes of operation in Duck Aside/Split Second. Shadow-Traced can flip the game on its head too defensively. But, most consistent raw boost is Half-Dragon. More variety can be achieved by stacking the Advanced Simple template with other +1s like Celestial-Blessed since eventually Half-Celestial will go above +2.


An Alacritious Heavens Oracle/Sorcerer could really dominate by using the extra standard actions to pump out Persistent Color Sprays (in first level spell slots with Magical Lineage/Wayang Spellhunter).


i would suggest a Were-murder of crows, a natural lycanthrope based off of the murder of crows creature (which is a swarm of crows), so you have the ability to turn into a swarm of black deadly birds that can pass off your curse to other people, quite interesting in my opinion

Edit: would make a lovely +1 CR template to add to a black-furred Kitsune ninja or rogue, imagine how badass it would be to be sneak attacking every turn with no attack roll required (sneak attack is kinda OP on swarms i am just realizing), for some extra gravy you can add Advanced to total up to +2 CR


Well if OP ideas are welcome... you can start by stacking Advanced and Young until you shrink down to fine sized, netting you +16 to all mental stats and +32 to Dex if you were medium sized to start with, then stack Young and Giant indefinitely to net you +infinite to AC and Dex, then turn yourself into a creature swarm for +0 and then decide what you actually want to do with your level adjustment. I'm partial to half dragon for the energy immunity.


johnnythexxxiv wrote:
Well if OP ideas are welcome... you can start by stacking Advanced and Young until you shrink down to fine sized, netting you +16 to all mental stats and +32 to Dex if you were medium sized to start with, then stack Young and Giant indefinitely to net you +infinite to AC and Dex, then turn yourself into a creature swarm for +0 and then decide what you actually want to do with your level adjustment. I'm partial to half dragon for the energy immunity.

Eeeeeh, that might be a little TOO OP for this campaign. Next?


Ya'akov wrote:
johnnythexxxiv wrote:
Well if OP ideas are welcome... you can start by stacking Advanced and Young until you shrink down to fine sized, netting you +16 to all mental stats and +32 to Dex if you were medium sized to start with, then stack Young and Giant indefinitely to net you +infinite to AC and Dex, then turn yourself into a creature swarm for +0 and then decide what you actually want to do with your level adjustment. I'm partial to half dragon for the energy immunity.
Eeeeeh, that might be a little TOO OP for this campaign. Next?

Skip the mad munchkining and go straight for one of the half breed templates, they're great for RP and are mechanically solid. There's some nice +3 templates too if you're willing to stack a -1 on as well to keep you at +2


The Agile simple mythic template is going to blow everything else out of the water. You should probably take advanced too, if you do that though.

Grave Knight and Lich are both powerful options. Immortality is nice.


I greatly appreciate the advice, but could please read my description; a few of these templates are not for "Good" aligned characters.

I'm also looking for feats too, not just templates.

That being said, I really do appreciate the tips.


johnnythexxxiv wrote:
Ya'akov wrote:
johnnythexxxiv wrote:
Well if OP ideas are welcome... you can start by stacking Advanced and Young until you shrink down to fine sized, netting you +16 to all mental stats and +32 to Dex if you were medium sized to start with, then stack Young and Giant indefinitely to net you +infinite to AC and Dex, then turn yourself into a creature swarm for +0 and then decide what you actually want to do with your level adjustment. I'm partial to half dragon for the energy immunity.
Eeeeeh, that might be a little TOO OP for this campaign. Next?
Skip the mad munchkining and go straight for one of the half breed templates, they're great for RP and are mechanically solid. There's some nice +3 templates too if you're willing to stack a -1 on as well to keep you at +2

That's better. Thanks!


Ya'akov wrote:

I greatly appreciate the advice, but could please read my description; a few of these templates are not for "Good" aligned characters.

I'm also looking for feats too, not just templates.

That being said, I really do appreciate the tips.

In order for us to help you out with feats and character fluff decisions we need to know which classes/play styles interest you the most or barring that, what the rest of your party is planning on bringing to the table. It's hard to make recommendations in a vacuum.

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