Spells that change a Medium Size Character huge or larger


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Grand Lodge

So I'm getting read to run Giantslayer and I want to have some things sorted out RAW in my mind. The question is if a character wanted to buff another character larger than "Large", what options do they have?

So first off, the spell would have to not have a target of personal. Is there a meta magic feat that will allow a personal spell to be used on another person. Wands seem to be one answer as long as the user is putting the spell on themselves and that persons has UMD.

I could go with magic items that allow for this, but I don't want to force players into this.

Suggestions?


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I don't believe there are any outside of mythic enlarge person.

Silver Crusade

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Enlarge Person on yourself, and Mass Reduce Person on everyone else around you. :P


Are you allowing third party material? The psionic powers expansion and metamorphosis can potentially increase a character's size to Huge, and a sufficiently high level egoist can share their effects with other characters.

Grand Lodge

No, I want to hold off on 3pp. Not to say it's not good, just want to control what I introduce.


All i have for this one is Cheese. Have your high level caster Marionette (or other possession) your fighter who is wearing a ring of continuation then cast Shapechange then leave the fighter.

Fighter should now be able to use shapechange for the next 24 hours and assume giant form.

Actually ....don't do any of this.

Basically the only spells that i know of that get you larger than Large are Giant Form 2, and Form of the Dragon 3, both are 8th level spells and Personal. So you probably won't be getting huge before 15th unless you are a Synthiest then 13 possibly.


I know you said you are avoiding 3rd Party, but . . .

Irthos wrote:
Are you allowing third party material? The psionic powers expansion and metamorphosis can potentially increase a character's size to Huge, and a sufficiently high level egoist can share their effects with other characters.

A Vitalist can manifest Expansion on a member of his collective. (The Vitalist would have to take the Expanded Knowledge feat to get Expansion, though)

Grand Lodge

Thanks for the advice all. This isn't a build for me rather a opportunity to understand all the ways to make a character bigger. Since I'm DMing I thought I would see if I was missing out on something.

If I want the player to have something, I will have to give it careful consideration.


A brown fur transmuter arcanist could put some of those personal spells on allies.

Edit: at 10th level the brown fur should be able to put Monstrous Phisique 3 on a teammate to make them huge.

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