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I'm a little sad nobody commented on my idea for allowing your children to inherit the world.
I was tempted to call it depraved or evil or something, but then I remembered this is all somewhat my fault in the first place for putting the spell in Jack's hands.
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I'm a little sad nobody commented on my idea for allowing your children to inherit the world.I was tempted to call it depraved or evil or something, but then I remembered this is all somewhat my fault in the first place for putting the spell in Jack's hands.
I just like the idea of being able to be Rumpelstiltskin. Sounds like a great idea for a worshipper of Asmodeus!
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Maybe you should offer to cast it on the guy with the thread about how to handle PC pregnancies in the game. Seems like it'd solve a couple problems in one fell swoop.
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I'm a little sad nobody commented on my idea for allowing your children to inherit the world.I was tempted to call it depraved or evil or something, but then I remembered this is all somewhat my fault in the first place for putting the spell in Jack's hands.
Did you already firmly mark it as arcane? because it was a cleric's scroll and arcanes can't cast divine scrolls as well as vice versa, of course that doesn't help you forever as now that the Witch knows it exists s/he research an arcane version of it?
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Did you already firmly mark it as arcane? because it was a cleric's scroll and arcanes can't cast divine scrolls* as well as vice versa, of course that doesn't help you forever as now that the Witch knows it exists s/he research an arcane version of it?I'm a little sad nobody commented on my idea for allowing your children to inherit the world.I was tempted to call it depraved or evil or something, but then I remembered this is all somewhat my fault in the first place for putting the spell in Jack's hands.
*without a sufficient UMD check. :D
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Did you already firmly mark it as arcane? because it was a cleric's scroll and arcanes can't cast divine scrolls as well as vice versa, of course that doesn't help you forever as now that the Witch knows it exists s/he research an arcane version of it?I'm a little sad nobody commented on my idea for allowing your children to inherit the world.I was tempted to call it depraved or evil or something, but then I remembered this is all somewhat my fault in the first place for putting the spell in Jack's hands.
I think he's relying on me learning the spell at this point. Certainly sounds like something a witch could do to someone.
I actually have a few experiments in mind so I'll post again when I get my plans together.
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I'm a little sad nobody commented on my idea for allowing your children to inherit the world.
I like it, kingmaker indeed
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Okay so I have a few ideas, not all of them are doable right now but I'll post them anyway. Maybe it will spark some ideas for the rest of you and if you have any, please post them here! I promise to use them for science!
1. Make a creature pregnant with a creature one size category larger than themself. Will they somehow complete the birth? Or will they pop like a balloon?
2. Put a humanoid baby in the womb of a cow. Will the cow accept them when they're born? Or reject them?
3. Conceive a child with someone and then transfer it to the womb of an important figure. The king seems unlikely to conceive another child soon so it will have to be one of his 5 children (unsure of genders at the moment). Let my child be in line for the throne. If the child is found out to not be a chosen suitor, watch the social discord happen.
4. Make someone give birth to an unsavory creature. If there are any suggestions for what creature, do let me know. Watch and see if society rejects her or pities her.
5. Make a bunch of peasants in service to pompous nobles begin to lay goose eggs. Will the peasants get treated? Or will they simply become livestock?
Number 5 isn't possible right now but I have been told that the possibility of greater or mythic versions of the spell that affect a wider range of creatures may exist if I was sufficiently committed.
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Have human [important political figure]'s human wife become pregnant with a half-elf child.
This is along the same lines of thinking that others have mentioned, but with this it's even less likely for people to assume that something horribly wrong has happened, and even more likely to assume that the wife had an affair with some random elf.
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Have human [important political figure]'s human wife become pregnant with a half-elf child.
This is along the same lines of thinking that others have mentioned, but with this it's even less likely for people to assume that something horribly wrong has happened, and even more likely to assume that the wife had an affair with some random elf.
As far as I'm aware, the King and his children are all half elves anyway (as am I incidentally) so it would probably stay under the radar unless a reason to check makes it self clear. It's also worth noting that in our setting, half elves are their own race. While they can be created through the standard elf and human union, "the bastard" is no longer the stereotype for the race.
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As far as I'm aware, the King and his children are all half elves anyway (as am I incidentally) so it would probably stay under the radar unless a reason to check makes it self clear. It's also worth noting that in our setting, half elves are their own race. While they can be created through the standard elf and human union, "the bastard" is no longer the stereotype for the race.Have human [important political figure]'s human wife become pregnant with a half-elf child.
This is along the same lines of thinking that others have mentioned, but with this it's even less likely for people to assume that something horribly wrong has happened, and even more likely to assume that the wife had an affair with some random elf.
Well, the thought is more along the lines of "make X important woman become pregnant with Y type of child that can happen naturally, even though Z type of child can only be achieved through the union between X and X's husband".
Basically, a political sabotage but where the people trying to figure out what happened have the "more likely story" of "the woman is unfaithful" to fall back on, whereas if you stuck a cow baby into her, people might first think "some strange magic is at work here".
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As far as I'm aware, the King and his children are all half elves anyway (as am I incidentally) so it would probably stay under the radar unless a reason to check makes it self clear. It's also worth noting that in our setting, half elves are their own race. While they can be created through the standard elf and human union, "the bastard" is no longer the stereotype for the race.Have human [important political figure]'s human wife become pregnant with a half-elf child.
This is along the same lines of thinking that others have mentioned, but with this it's even less likely for people to assume that something horribly wrong has happened, and even more likely to assume that the wife had an affair with some random elf.
Well, the thought is more along the lines of "make X important woman become pregnant with Y type of child that can happen naturally, even though Z type of child can only be achieved through the union between X and X's husband".
Basically, a political sabotage but where the people trying to figure out what happened have the "more likely story" of "the woman is unfaithful" to fall back on, whereas if you stuck a cow baby into her, people might first think "some strange magic is at work here".
Yeah that was my original plan. The whole "the woman was unfaithful" scenario was just one possible outcome.
I would definitely like this to stay as quiet as possible in any case. The King is essentially a middle aged Hercules and I've already seen him Fleet Charge a Cockatrice, grab it by the neck and toss it out the window. Granted Cockatrices are small creatures but I would like to make sure I don't end up like that.
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I'm sure the temple of calistria could help you pick out an appropriate target.
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Our setting is a mix of Greyhawk and Golarion deities and unfortunately I don't think Calistria specifically exists. Still, contacting temples and cults for the more chaotically aligned deities may be worth looking into. Thanks for the idea!
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Find the biggest lech in town, transfer it over to him, and tell him to deny THIS one.
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Find the biggest lech in town, transfer it over to him, and tell him to deny THIS one.
Interesting idea but probably not something my NE character would care about. Even if he is a bit of a prankster at times.
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transfer it to a god.
IMPREGNATE A GOD.
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Find a giant.
Create Ymir.
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Make a trans woman who wishes she could become pregnant really happy. c:
(but I suppose your NE character wouldn't care about that)
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Make a trans woman who wishes she could become pregnant really happy. c:
(but I suppose your NE character wouldn't care about that)
This one actually caught my attention. You see, a few missions back we met a Tengu married to a Dwarf. This Tengu went missing and after talking to this Dwarf, we learned that he was worried she left him because he couldn't give her a child. This wasn't actually the case but that's not important. What is important is that I could actually give them the child they so desired, and this would certainly help build up some rep with the city. If anyone had any suspicions I was evil, this would immediately dispel them.
Anyone who sees this thread can feel free to keep spitballing, so far the amount of help it's providing is quite surprising!
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I'm a little sad nobody commented on my idea for allowing your children to inherit the world.Bodor the Barbarian no want meek children!
Funnily enough, the King has already had 3 wives that have all passed away for various reasons. It's possible that he may marry again and have another child.
If he does, I'll be ready....Edit: I could use a philter of love on him. The tricky bit is getting him to drink it without consequences, being an unwilling drinker or otherwise.
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Why limit yourself to one transfer? Make a litter.
/cevah
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Why limit yourself to one transfer? Make a litter.
/cevah
The thought did occur to me, however I decided to wait until I can get a Greater or Mythic version of the spell that affects animals since there aren't many Humanoids, Monstrous Humanoids and Fey that breed in litters. If someone can think of any easy to access creatures that breed in litters in that category do tell me. Also While I can probably do it with any creature by doing multiple castings, the victim would get a fortitude save each time and my main target for litters would be the aforementioned party swashbuckler (who has a decent fortitude) if he steps out of line.
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catfolk maybe?
Incidentally, I strongly suspect orcs or goblins probably produce significantly more average offspring than humans.
Goblins do, canonically - they die often for all sorts of stupid reasons.
Orcs would have to, just to keep up with all the warfare and death they have in their own society, much less with everything else that kills them (for good reason).
This also syncs up with their tendency to mature quickly and die early - clear indicators of high birth rate for species continuance.
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The thought did occur to me, however I decided to wait until I can get a Greater or Mythic version of the spell that affects animals since there aren't many Humanoids, Monstrous Humanoids and Fey that breed in litters. If someone can think of any easy to access creatures that breed in litters in that category do tell me. Also While I can probably do it with any creature by doing multiple castings, the victim would get a fortitude save each time and my main target for litters would be the aforementioned party swashbuckler (who has a decent fortitude) if he steps out of line.Why limit yourself to one transfer? Make a litter.
/cevah
You don't have to send the unborn into someone not pregnant.
Cast on multiple pregnant creatures and place all the unborn into a single target creature. Instant litter. Possibly of different species.
/cevah
PS: You need to watch more "B" movies. Your imagination seems a little limited. :-)
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In all seriousness, this sounds like something plot related for a game with fairy tale influences.
What if whoever made the scroll has some kind of deal with a Rumplestiltskin-type creature, or a demon or something. If they traded their firstborn for something, this would be a great way of getting out of the deal.
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Incidentally, I strongly suspect orcs or goblins probably produce significantly more average offspring than humans.Goblins do, canonically - they die often for all sorts of stupid reasons.
Orcs would have to, just to keep up with all the warfare and death they have in their own society, much less with everything else that kills them (for good reason).
This also syncs up with their tendency to mature quickly and die early - clear indicators of high birth rate for species continuance.
Same thing with Kobolds. Actually Kobolds are probably easier if I were to use humanoids since the egg doesn't get a save.
In all seriousness, this sounds like something plot related for a game with fairy tale influences.
What if whoever made the scroll has some kind of deal with a Rumplestiltskin-type creature, or a demon or something. If they traded their firstborn for something, this would be a great way of getting out of the deal.
After our last session, I'm fairly certain the cleric who had this in his cabin on the airship was using it to solve a rather serious diarrhea issue...
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I know it has been a while since I last posted so I thought I would give you guys an update.
I have officially learned the spell. A combination of Knowledge (Arcana) and Knowledge (History) revealed that the scroll is not unknown but mostly confined within a Halfling House of Healing. With this is mind, I decided to give 4 scrolls of the spell to the King, telling him that I would like the clerics of the city to reduce the number of commonfolk deaths from people who can't afford to pay for treatment. This is all for the publicity and to make the 6 o'clock news of course. The King naturally accepted and the clerics in the city (the most populous city on the continent I might add) now love me for giving them better access to it. While the House of Healing wasn't exactly trying to keep it under wraps, this will very likely mean I will have a bunch of angry Halfling Nobles knocking down my door for cutting into their profits. Should be fun!
I am also in the process of using the spell on the Tengu and Dwarf couple. They were surprised by my offer and agreed to meet me.
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I am also in the process of using the spell on the Tengu and Dwarf couple. They were surprised by my offer and agreed to meet me.
May the prospective mother's egg harden well and produce a nice solid swordsbird!
May the prospective mother's egg harden well and produce a nice solid swordsbird!
I am also in the process of using the spell on the Tengu and Dwarf couple. They were surprised by my offer and agreed to meet me.
Well I believe it will be a dwarven baby but it does raise the question of whether the little dwarf will end up in an egg when it's transferred to the Tengu Mother.
Well I believe it will be a dwarven baby but it does raise the question of whether the little dwarf will end up in an egg when it's transferred to the Tengu Mother.May the prospective mother's egg harden well and produce a nice solid swordsbird!
I am also in the process of using the spell on the Tengu and Dwarf couple. They were surprised by my offer and agreed to meet me.
Who knows, perhaps those Halfling carrier-providers viewed that case as 'problematic' and refused to do it on moral/ethical/weirdness grounds. You could make a whole niche *industry* out of this.
I'll just leave this here...
http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Transfer_Pregnancy_(3.5e_Spell)
Well I believe it will be a dwarven baby but it does raise the question of whether the little dwarf will end up in an egg when it's transferred to the Tengu Mother.May the prospective mother's egg harden well and produce a nice solid swordsbird!
I am also in the process of using the spell on the Tengu and Dwarf couple. They were surprised by my offer and agreed to meet me.
Who knows, perhaps those Halfling carrier-providers viewed that case as 'problematic' and refused to do it on moral/ethical/weirdness grounds. You could make a whole niche *industry* out of this.
If I were to guess, the couple simply couldn't afford it. While I am playing in a modern setting, I don't think health insurance exists. Rumour has it that the House of Healing adapted the spell from the medicine men of halfling tribes who may have had a weaker version. I don't know much about the House itself but I expect they'll be banging down my door for spreading the spell since less profits will often mean less influence.
Edit: Also secretly hoping they name the baby Jack!
I'll just leave this here...
http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Transfer_Pregnancy_(3.5e_Spell)
Well I was not aware that existed but thanks for the laugh! I'm guessing my GM based it off this since Eberron was created for 3.5. Whatever the case, I'm quite happy my version is much more susceptible to shenanigans.