Investigator and Promethean Alchemist multi-class question


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So when the hybrid classes were introduced in the ACG, the restriction on multi-classing the parent classes was lifted.

relevant text on parent classes from ACG:
Parent Classes: Each one of the following classes lists two classes that it draws upon to form the basis of its theme. While a character can multiclass with these parent classes, this usually results in redundant abilities. Such abilities don't stack unless specified. If a class feature allows the character to make a one-time choice (such as a bloodline), that choice must match similar choices made by the parent classes and vice-versa (such as selecting the same bloodline).

The new archetype for Alchemists from Occult Adventures trades out bombs and mutagen to get a special homunculus companion. The homunculus gains Sympathetic Alchemy and Telepathic Link at 1st level.
Sympathetic alchemy:
Sympathetic Alchemy (Su): The bond between a promethean alchemist and his homunculus is so close that the alchemist’s extracts function for the homunculus as if it were the alchemist, allowing the homunculus companion to benefit from extracts without the alchemist needing the infusion discovery. The homunculus is treated as a humanoid or a construct-whichever is more beneficial-for the purposes of what extracts can affect it. Additionally, the homunculus can prepare its master’s extracts from his formula book for him each day, as long as it’s within the range of its telepathic link.

Telepathic Link:
Telepathic Link (Su): A homunculus can’t initially speak, but shares a telepathic link with its creator. It knows what its master knows and can convey to him everything it sees and hears, out to a range of 1,500 feet.

Say you have multiples levels in Investigator already and multi-class into Promethean Alchemist. As I understand it, you now have 2 totals of extracts available per day, with different "caster" levels for them, and 2 separate formulae books. So you'll need to track which class you prepare extracts for each day.
Can this new companion be affected by your Investigator extracts, and even prepare them for the PC? Please consider cases with and without having the Infusion discovery as an Investigator talent. My gut says probably not, but I couldn't find anything online one way or another. The "knows what its master knows" part is the curve ball.
2nd question, does that mean the homunculus understands all the languages the PC speaks?


1. Sure, doesn't seem too harmful in allowing it. I think it's very reasonable, and very logical for it to work.

2. This is a slippery slope, as that could also mean it would have other things like skills matched. I'd say no, since the telepathy is probably just concept communication, although if I were GM, I'd allow very basic and slow relaying of individual words to the homunculus, but not fluid speech nor understanding.


I'd allow it. Also, although you'd have different "slots" and caster levels, I'd let you have one single formulae book, with the extracts from both classes written in it.

The Concordance

Alchemist extracts only. The investigator extracts are not your alchemist extracts. The homonculus knows what you know, but it doesn't have the ability to create investigator extracts that your class levels in investigator grant you.

Infusion discovery from Investigator levels works, but the homonculus is still considered a construct for those extracts, so no Enlarge Person, etc.

The Exchange

ShieldLawrence wrote:

Alchemist extracts only. The investigator extracts are not your alchemist extracts. The homonculus knows what you know, but it doesn't have the ability to create investigator extracts that your class levels in investigator grant you.

Infusion discovery from Investigator levels works, but the homonculus is still considered a construct for those extracts, so no Enlarge Person, etc.

Except under Investigator, it states that the extracts are like the Alchemist's. and uses the same rules for governing them.


Same rules does not mean same class, it just means the two function similarly.

And I do not feel this necessarily warranted a necro.


Saethori wrote:

Same rules does not mean same class, it just means the two function similarly.

And I do not feel this necessarily warranted a necro.

Even if it does, I can't see why it was necessary to necro four different Promethean Alchemist threads at the same time.

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