Anti-Paladin sees all paladin thread...
Anti paladin sees no thread for herself...
Sad antipaladin is sad...
So for funsies and semi seriousness... ANTI PALADIN RANT THREAD FOR ALL YOU ANTI PALADIN LOVERS!!!.... or haters to...
So to start, I really hate how anti paladins have to be CE.... but have a.code of conduct... this really throws a monkey wrench into the alignment thing as a whole... because now it raises the question of act vs intent and what lawful vs chaotic means.
I mean, usually a code of conduct is a LAWFUL thing. Also, most people ive seen tend to view L as less about LAWS amd more having to do with having a code and structure with thought and such. Like... being disciplined if you wull. But... the anti paladin is like an exercise in oxymoronism... he is disciplined in.... being undisciplined? It makes more sense for them to be LE not CE....
As an added benefit! Being LE allows them to be Hellknights and THAT is just flavourful and actually kinda humorous (Limbo starts getting threating so Hellknights everywhere get called and you end.up with Paladins (with.oath vs chaos) and Anti Paladins fighting side by side).
So! What do you all think? Anti Paladin alignment and code of.conduct in conflict or no?
I hate it when the DM puts me in a no-win benevolence scenario.
Player: No starving orphans, I'm throwing all two tons of this food over the cliff.
DM: There's an oblivious demon standing at the bottom of the cliff.
Player: What?
DM: The orphans are already starting to eat. What do you do?
I know right?
Here you are trying to be the most vile horrid villian and that dick GM is just putting scenerios where you look like Mother Theresa!
I feel loke this an anime very similiar to this... a guy trying to be a villian and take over the worls but everything he does just seems to help everyone instead of causing any real mayham...
I hate it when the DM puts me in a no-win benevolence scenario.
Player: No starving orphans, I'm throwing all two tons of this food over the cliff.
DM: There's an oblivious demon standing at the bottom of the cliff.
Player: What?
DM: The orphans are already starting to eat. What do you do?
i always thought anti-paladins could do good deeds as long as they did them to cover their tracks or to be later used to further their evils goals?
I hate it when the DM puts me in a no-win benevolence scenario.
Player: No starving orphans, I'm throwing all two tons of this food over the cliff.
DM: There's an oblivious demon standing at the bottom of the cliff.
Player: What?
DM: The orphans are already starting to eat. What do you do?
he can kill other Demons for kicks, Demon Lords backstab each other all the time.
You know what else I hate? When my DM makes me ascend just because I missed an opportunity to punch that kitten that lives next door. I mean... Do I have to declare a kitten punching action everyday? He's just railroading me because there are so many good kitten NPC's!!!
The demon gets beaned on the head. Literally. What a cheesy way the die.
Still, there's something fishy if your GM is forcing you into a pickle like that. Orange you glad you're not in that sort of game?
those horrible puns need to be "punished", please report to the nearest temple of Zon Kuthon
those horrible puns need to be "punished", please report to the nearest temple of Zon KuthonThe demon gets beaned on the head. Literally. What a cheesy way the die.
Still, there's something fishy if your GM is forcing you into a pickle like that. Orange you glad you're not in that sort of game?
Prepare to be PUN-ished lol.
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Accepting punishment by Zon Kuthon is Lawful
Accepting punishment by Zon Kuthon is Lawful
Damn it!
Er... i mean... blrss it? Hm,..
GM just trying to get us to ascend by putting us in trap scenerios.
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I really appreciated Fire Mountain Games doing an LE antipaladin archetype, and encouraging LE antipaladins in the Way of the Wicked AP.
I remember one of the Dragon magazines back in 3.5 had antipaladin variants for all 3 spectrums of evil, and the LE Tyrant was my favorite then too.
Side note, one of my favorite pieces of art is the pig-kicking antipaladin in the ACG.
Accepting punishment by Zon Kuthon is Lawful
I am a hellknight not an anti-paladin
With respect to falling (down or up), Paladin and Antipaladin are more likely to run into trouble for being base classes that have strict codes of conduct from the start, rather than being prestige classes that introduce characters to codes of conduct first (as both varieties of Hellknight do), which would give much more chance to set characters' (and players') expectations. Also think about Paladins, Antipaladins, and for that matter Inquisitors from a story perspective: Any religion that lets any random worshipper become one of their holy warriors or above-the-law behind-the-scenes enforcers is really setting itself up for corruption, as well as setting up characters for falls. This is a problem inherited all the way back from AD&D 1.0 -- I really wish later editions (including but not limited to Pathfinder) had gotten serious about fixing it. D&D 3.5 Unearthed Arcana took a couple of shots at it with the Prestige Paladin and the Paladins of all 4 corner alignments, although strangely they didn't combine these efforts (apart from putting them in the same book), and who says that Holy Warriors can only be of the 4 corner alignments anyway? Anyway, neither one caught on, although Kirthfinder has taken another shot at it. A slightly more fleshed-out Hellknight would be a really good example of how to do this (note: not just for the corner alignments). Although the prime examples of these would be Holy Warriors of detail differing by religion, philosophies could also get in on the at (again, using Hellknights as a prime example). Prestige class archetypes would help with the implementation of this concept.