I really dont understand this feat
Prerequisite(s): Animal companion or mount class feature.
Benefit: You can choose not to allow spells and effects to effect you if they would not be capable of affecting both your original creature type and the animal creature type.
Animal soul
Before the errata, it was easy enough to understand and maybe considered abit over powered...but now??? Is it meant for druids who wildshape? What about a paladin then? that is what really confuses me, sinds it is also availble for classes with mounts.
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I disagree with the errata. However it does still do something. You can choose to ignore any spell that cannot affect BOTH animal and your main type. Ie, someone casts charm person, useless, charm animal ,useless, hold person, useless...
None of those affect both human and animal sp they dont do anything
I disagree with the errata. However it does still do something. You can choose to ignore any spell that cannot affect BOTH animal and your main type. Ie, someone casts charm person, useless, charm animal ,useless, hold person, useless...
None of those affect both human and animal sp they dont do anything
i stil dont get this one.....it appears utterly garbage
Edit: wait a minut, so what you are saying is this; if a spell or effect, cant affect humanoid and animal, i can choice to ignore it?
Edit: wait a minut, so what you are saying is this; if a spell or effect, cant affect humanoid and animal, i can choice to ignore it?
Yep.
Edit: wait a minut, so what you are saying is this; if a spell or effect, cant affect humanoid and animal, i can choice to ignore it?Yep.
thank you both for the answers. It can be somewhat useful..but stil, would had prefere animal soul before the errata
Yes. For instance since charm person affects only humanoids and charm animal affects only animals, if you had the feat you could choose not to be affected by those affects. However, charm monster does affect both, and you would need to successfully make your save against it to not be affected.
Could you chose to stop being affected by a spell after you've let it affect you at the time of its casting? I can't think of a situation where it would be useful, but the lack of timing rules in the feat's new description doesn't make it clear if you could or couldn't.
Could you chose to stop being affected by a spell after you've let it affect you at the time of its casting? I can't think of a situation where it would be useful, but the lack of timing rules in the feat's new description doesn't make it clear if you could or couldn't.
Not clear, but I would say no. I would say you only get the option when the spell is cast on you.
The feat is useful in avoiding ranger favored enemy bonuses, as they need to take both animal and your humanoid (or outsider) type to affect you.
I'd probably rule against it too, to avoid creating unnecessary complications.
I did think of some uses for choosing to stop being affected while the spell is ongoing, though.
- Ending Enlarge/Reduce Person spells someone else cast on you when it suits you.
- Letting yourself be affected by Dominate Person, finding out what the hell that wizard wants, then ending it.
The feat is useful in avoiding ranger favored enemy bonuses, as they need to take both animal and your humanoid (or outsider) type to affect you.
Favored Enemy isn't an effect affecting its victims. It just gives bonuses to the ranger.
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would had prefere animal soul before the errata
So would the natural oracle giving his party members +11 to Saves with Friend to the Animals if they took Animal Soul and some 1st level dip in a similar class with an A.C.
Favored Enemy isn't an effect affecting its victims. It just gives bonuses to the ranger.
Table variance, because it totally looks like an effect "affecting you" to me. I'd go as far to say it is probably the effect that lead to the expanding beyond spells to spells and effects.
The feat is useful in avoiding ranger favored enemy bonuses, as they need to take both animal and your humanoid (or outsider) type to affect you.Favored Enemy isn't an effect affecting its victims. It just gives bonuses to the ranger.
How is extra damage not affecting you? Is the flaming sword's extra d6 an effect of the sword and not affecting the target of the attack?
I've seen it suggested that favored enemy works in other threads on this and to me it looks like it works. If it doesn't, is seems a lot less useful.