Greensting Scorpion Familiar With Mauler Archetype


Rules Questions

Grand Lodge

The Greensting Scorpion appears in both Bestiary I and IV. In Bestiary I it has a rather limited description which is much more complete than in IV.

At the heart of my question is a player who has a Greensting familiar which utilizes the Mauler Archetype from Familiar Folio (page 11)- what stats do a Medium Sized Greensting have? I have heard competing arguments which are as follows:

#1 The Greensting uses the stats for a Cave Scorpion out of Bestiary I because that entry shows the size increases for various CR of scorpions based on size.

#2 The Greensting uses the stats out of Bestiary IV which are modified by their size increases as per the table on page 295-296 of Bestiary I, which would mean that the scorpion does not have claw attacks- because Bestiary IV does not list damage for them.

Personally, I find it had to believe the scorpion wouldn't have a claw (pincer) attack, but this is for PFS play so I want to make the right call.


You don't use monster advancement table for Mauler.You use Transmutation (Polymorph) table.


Cleru wrote:

You don't use monster advancement table for Mauler.You use Transmutation (Polymorph) table.

You use what the book says the greensting scorpion entry says it has.

Grand Lodge

Ok, thanks for the help. But the Polymorph table doesn't appear to have the stats listed for when a Tiny (or smaller) creature is grown to Medium size. Am I missing something? Am I to assume that there is no effect (as with normal growth from small size to medium)? So Small and Medium are treated the same as per the polymorph school.


if it's smaller than small you use the table to make it small before doing the effect of the "spell/ability" if it's larger than medium you make it medium before doing the effect of the "spell/ability"


Sorry my phone messed up. You get the stats the book says it has. Then advance it with transmutation table. Then add what the ability says to add. For a total of +6 to strength -2 to dexterity.

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