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This isn't a clarification thread, but rather a discussion. From Mark Seifter's comments we've gleaned that "unaware" =\= "unaware of your presence". The Appearance abilities are strong combat openers against those you get the drop on, but as is can be completely negated by creatures with Scent or Blindsense. Even though you have Total Concealment when successfully stealthed/invisible against such creatures, you would automatically fail because they can notice your presence without seeing you.
Does this seem balanced? I would like your thoughts and ideas.
Also, consider building a vigilante with Knowledges (or have a friend with them, or ask the Bat-Computer or something) so you can ascertain the range of those blindsense abilities and strike from just beyond!
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Also, consider building a vigilante with Knowledges (or have a friend with them, or ask the Bat-Computer or something) so you can ascertain the range of those blindsense abilities and strike from just beyond!
A bat-library social talent might be nice, especially if you could get a bat-brarian to help you with your knowledge checks if you know in advance which super-villain you're going to be going face-to-face with...
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Also, consider building a vigilante with Knowledges (or have a friend with them, or ask the Bat-Computer or something) so you can ascertain the range of those blindsense abilities and strike from just beyond!A bat-library social talent might be nice, especially if you could get a bat-brarian to help you with your knowledge checks if you know in advance which super-villain you're going to be going face-to-face with...
Isn't that called social grace? Sure to get religion, arcane, plains, nature, and dungeoneering you have to hit level 17, but you get to build up your library over time. (You'll have to handle local on your own.)
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Isn't that called social grace? Sure to get religion, arcane, plains, nature, and dungeoneering you have to hit level 17, but you get to build up your library over time. (You'll have to handle local on your own.)Also, consider building a vigilante with Knowledges (or have a friend with them, or ask the Bat-Computer or something) so you can ascertain the range of those blindsense abilities and strike from just beyond!A bat-library social talent might be nice, especially if you could get a bat-brarian to help you with your knowledge checks if you know in advance which super-villain you're going to be going face-to-face with...
Knowledge skills seem like a poor investment, but you're right, it could be done. I was thinking more along the lines of the Sage NPC you can get for 15gp/day.
