Hello. I'm planning on making a female halfling titan mauler barbarian, but I seem to have a few things that I am confused with.
One is that I'm unsure of which I should use, the unchained barbarian or the regular barbarian from the Core Rulebook. I haven't played a barbarian before, so I'm not sure which would be a better option.
Also, I already have her stats; however, they may not be the best selection (I chosen the 20-point buy just as a start, & if I use her in a campaign with a different point buy system, I can readjust them):
STR 15
DEX 14
CON 11
INT 12
WIS 13
CHA 15
As for feats, I've heard that Power Attack is a nice choice for barbarians at 1st level, although I'm not sure if it'll work for her or not.
Personality wise, she's going to be a sweet, caring, almost bubbly PC-which will definitely throw off anyone when they see her in a rage.
Any advice will be great.
What do you want out of titan mauler? Lots of people misinterprete what the archetype does.
You can not, for example, wield a medium sized greatsword as a small titan mauler.
I for one don't like the unchained barbarian. I think they messed up bad when they ruled that she is always fatigued for 1min no matter how long or short she raged.
If you want to use a two-handed weapon you want power-attack.
Yeah, unfortunately titan mauler on reduces the penalties for wielding oversized weapons, it does not actually allow you to wield larger weapon than you normally could.
A halfing is normally small, the "largest" weapon you could wield would be a large sized light weapon, which would require two hands for you to use. You could wield a medium sized light weapon as a 1 handed weapon, or a medium sized 1 handed weapon as a two handed.
What does this ultimately mean? It's actually really really bad. A large short sword would deal 1d8 damage, whereas a small greatsword actually deals 1d10. There may be a weapon where this works out to a slight damage gain, but your going to be taking a -2 penalty to hit for each size the weapon is above yours. Now titan mauler gets to negate parts of those penalties over time, but you have to give up stuff to get that ability.
And, it gives you worse damage dice in most cases.
From an optimization standpoint, you don't want 15 charisma.
Actually, checking your point buy it's off in the first place. That is more than a 20 point buy. Anyways, your priorities from an optimization standpoint should be strength and con. Your decision from there.
Yeah, unfortunately titan mauler on reduces the penalties for wielding oversized weapons, it does not actually allow you to wield larger weapon than you normally could.
A halfing is normally small, the "largest" weapon you could wield would be a large sized light weapon, which would require two hands for you to use. You could wield a medium sized light weapon as a 1 handed weapon, or a medium sized 1 handed weapon as a two handed.
What does this ultimately mean? It's actually really really bad. A large short sword would deal 1d8 damage, whereas a small greatsword actually deals 1d10. There may be a weapon where this works out to a slight damage gain, but your going to be taking a -2 penalty to hit for each size the weapon is above yours. Now titan mauler gets to negate parts of those penalties over time, but you have to give up stuff to get that ability.
And, it gives you worse damage dice in most cases.
From an optimization standpoint, you don't want 15 charisma.
Actually, checking your point buy it's off in the first place. That is more than a 20 point buy. Anyways, your priorities from an optimization standpoint should be strength and con. Your decision from there.
Hmm..Yeah, I think I can see how the titan mauler is...flawed. I'll see if there's a way I can make an Archaeologist (Bard) out of one.
And as for the point buy-I made the stupid mistake of not saying that the stats included the +2 DEX and CHA bonus and -2 CON penalty. My bad.
What do you want out of titan mauler? Lots of people misinterprete what the archetype does.
You can not, for example, wield a medium sized greatsword as a small titan mauler.I for one don't like the unchained barbarian. I think they messed up bad when they ruled that she is always fatigued for 1min no matter how long or short she raged.
If you want to use a two-handed weapon you want power-attack.
So...the original barbarian is better than the unchained barbarian?
And I do see where the archetype can get misinterpreted. Thanks anyways.
Yeah, unfortunately titan mauler on reduces the penalties for wielding oversized weapons, it does not actually allow you to wield larger weapon than you normally could.
A halfing is normally small, the "largest" weapon you could wield would be a large sized light weapon, which would require two hands for you to use. You could wield a medium sized light weapon as a 1 handed weapon, or a medium sized 1 handed weapon as a two handed.
What does this ultimately mean? It's actually really really bad. A large short sword would deal 1d8 damage, whereas a small greatsword actually deals 1d10. There may be a weapon where this works out to a slight damage gain, but your going to be taking a -2 penalty to hit for each size the weapon is above yours. Now titan mauler gets to negate parts of those penalties over time, but you have to give up stuff to get that ability.
And, it gives you worse damage dice in most cases.
From an optimization standpoint, you don't want 15 charisma.
Actually, checking your point buy it's off in the first place. That is more than a 20 point buy. Anyways, your priorities from an optimization standpoint should be strength and con. Your decision from there.
Hmm..Yeah, I think I can see how the titan mauler is...flawed. I'll see if there's a way I can make an Archaeologist (Bard) out of one.
And as for the point buy-I made the stupid mistake of not saying that the stats included the +2 DEX and CHA bonus and -2 CON penalty. My bad.
Halflings get a -2 on str, not con. So that's why your scores are wrong including the race bonuses. But you are correct that if you did have a penalty to con your stats are a 20pt buy.
Hmm..Yeah, I think I can see how the titan mauler is...flawed. I'll see if there's a way I can make an Archaeologist (Bard) out of one.
And as for the point buy-I made the stupid mistake of not saying that the stats included the +2 DEX and CHA bonus and -2 CON penalty. My bad.
Make an Archaeologist bard out of what? Your halfing? With those stats?
Probably would be alright, you'd be better off with a Dervish Dancer Bard and drop strength if favor of Dex, Con, Cha. Depending on what you intend to do with your spells (buff vs debuff) you don't need that much charisma.
Charisma helps to increase the DC of spells you would cast, but if your casting mostly buff spells and want more melee power being able to put those extra points into dex and con will be useful. You con is just too low in my opinion for a character that wants to be in melee combat. Regardless of bard or barbarian.
And you got the stat bonuses for halfings wrong not that you stat what you used. They get +2 dex, +2 cha, -2 strength. Not con. That's why I couldn't get your point buy to work out earlier when I tried to calculate and optimize it.
Hmm..Yeah, I think I can see how the titan mauler is...flawed. I'll see if there's a way I can make an Archaeologist (Bard) out of one.
And as for the point buy-I made the stupid mistake of not saying that the stats included the +2 DEX and CHA bonus and -2 CON penalty. My bad.
Make an Archaeologist bard out of what? Your halfing? With those stats?
Probably would be alright, you'd be better off with a Dervish Dancer Bard and drop strength if favor of Dex, Con, Cha. Depending on what you intend to do with your spells (buff vs debuff) you don't need that much charisma.
Charisma helps to increase the DC of spells you would cast, but if your casting mostly buff spells and want more melee power being able to put those extra points into dex and con will be useful. You con is just too low in my opinion for a character that wants to be in melee combat. Regardless of bard or barbarian.
And you got the stat bonuses for halfings wrong not that you stat what you used. They get +2 dex, +2 cha, -2 strength. Not con. That why I couldn't get your point buy to work out earlier when I tried to calculate and optimize it.
Hmm...Dervish Dancer Bard. Maybe, if I can switch around the focus from STR to DEX and CON, then maybe.
And I totally forgot that halfling's penalty applies to Strength, not Constitution. That was a mistake on my part.
And I'm getting back into Pathfinder after a 1 1/2 year hiatus, so my knowledge may be a bit rusty. Which is why I turned to the Advice forums.
What do you want out of titan mauler? Lots of people misinterprete what the archetype does.
You can not, for example, wield a medium sized greatsword as a small titan mauler.I for one don't like the unchained barbarian. I think they messed up bad when they ruled that she is always fatigued for 1min no matter how long or short she raged.
If you want to use a two-handed weapon you want power-attack.
So...the original barbarian is better than the unchained barbarian?
And I do see where the archetype can get misinterpreted. Thanks anyways.
The unchained barbarian has nice things, too. For example it is easier to make a dex based barbarian because rage gives a bonus to hit and damage instead of strength.