Snakebite Striker + Unchained Rogue


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Hi there, I was just wondering if I were to take a level in each, if I would have 2d6 sneak attack at level 2.

The writing on Snakebite Brawler seems to make that seem the case, as its written differently then other sneak attack archtypes.

At 1st level, the snakebite striker can make a sneak attack. This is as the rogue ability of the same name. At 1st level, her sneak attack damage is +1d6. This increases by 1d6 at 6th, 10th, 12th, and 20th levels. If she gets a sneak attack bonus from another source, the bonuses on damage stack.

by RAW i would think it would have to work, but I am looking for some insight.


It works, and, actually, the only archetype that grants sneak attack that has a different wording than the Snakebite Brawler is the Vivisectionist. Snakebite is the common occurrence - see Sandman Bard or Cult Leader Warpriest.


Skyler Malik wrote:

Hi there, I was just wondering if I were to take a level in each, if I would have 2d6 sneak attack at level 2.

The writing on Snakebite Brawler seems to make that seem the case, as its written differently then other sneak attack archtypes.

At 1st level, the snakebite striker can make a sneak attack. This is as the rogue ability of the same name. At 1st level, her sneak attack damage is +1d6. This increases by 1d6 at 6th, 10th, 12th, and 20th levels. If she gets a sneak attack bonus from another source, the bonuses on damage stack.

by RAW i would think it would have to work, but I am looking for some insight.

I think it does: normally bonus levels stack not damage (Vivisectionist says levels), but yours says the damage.

So it should directly stack.

Secret Wizard wrote:
It works, and, actually, the only archetype that grants sneak attack that has a different wording than the Snakebite Brawler is the Vivisectionist. Snakebite is the common occurrence - see Sandman Bard or Cult Leader Warpriest.

Sandman doesn't mention stacking though. Warpriest mentions damage not level stacking.


I wonder what happens of you try to Sneak Attack an opponent with partial concealment. Snakebite Striker is based on the Core Rogue who can't use Sneak Attack when the opponent has any concealment, but the Unchained Rogue is only limited by total concealment. So against an opponent with partial concealment does the Unchained Rogue die apply while the Brawler die is blocked?

Shadow Lodge

Gisher wrote:
I wonder what happens of you try to Sneak Attack an opponent with partial concealment. Snakebite Striker is based on the Core Rogue who can't use Sneak Attack when the opponent has any concealment, but the Unchained Rogue is only limited by total concealment. So against an opponent with partial concealment does the Unchained Rogue die apply while the Brawler die is blocked?

I'd also like to see anew answer on this part. I took shadow strike anyways, so the question is academic for me, but for the many classes that grant sneak attack as a rogue, it'd be nice to know.

Scarab Sages

If you have levels in unchained rogue, you use unchained sneak attack rules for all of your sneak attack granting classes. In effect, urogue is giving you shadow strike as a class feature.

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