There are a few things in the archetype, that I want to make sure I'm reading correctly....
#1 "Pact (Ex): A pact wizard enters into a bargain with an extraplanar being in order to gain increased wizardly powers. At 1st level, he selects a patron belonging to one specific subtype of outsider for which there exists an improved familiar option (such as devil or azata). The pact wizard can select a subtype of outsider even with a diametrically opposed alignment; in this case, the patron being offers the pact in an attempt to tempt or redeem the pact wizard. A pact wizard whose alignment shifts away from the chosen outsider subtype, who grossly abuses his familiar or any outsider of the chosen subtype,
or who commits egregious acts against the alignment of the patron loses all the benefits of this archetype (but keeps the additional opposition school) until he receives an atonement."
By my reading, the wizard can form the pact with any outsider...even one with a "diametrically opposed alignment"...so starting with a CN wizard with a Devil (LE) is fine...he only looses the benefits of the archetype if his alignment moves further from LE....correct ?
#2 This is just a question of clarification in how Aura's work in general...if said wizard is CN, but is pact bound to a Devil...he will read LE due to the Aura correct ? Or would they get a duel reading of some sort ?
I don't know how you can have a different alignment patron, but then have the restriction of shifting away from his chosen outsider alignment.
As for the aura, however, it states that he has an aura as the outsider subtype.
So, your example would detect as LE, and not CN.
I don't know how you can have a different alignment patron, but then have the restriction of shifting away from his chosen outsider alignment.
That's both what I like about the archetype...and what I'm having a bit of difficulty interpreting....
It would have been a bit clearer if they had said something along the lines of "A pact wizard whose alignment shifts further away from the chosen outsider subtype,"
Yes, you can make the pact.
But the problem with having such a radically different alignment goes even further than "shifting away" though.
A pact wizard whose alignment shifts away from the chosen outsider subtype, who grossly abuses his familiar or any outsider of the chosen subtype, or who commits egregious acts against the alignment of the patron loses all the benefits of this archetype (but keeps the additional opposition school) until he receives an atonement."
You can't really stay a "diametrically opposed" alignment without acting against the patron's alignment.
A LG person doing Good things is acting against any Evil alignment. But if they stop doing Good things, the person isn't really being LG anymore. Same for any extreme difference.
I can see it working with one-step alignment differences (say, LN with LG or LE patron). But you get too different, and you basically have to change alignment or lose class features.
And Yes, the aura is the alignment of the Patron, not necessarily your own.
So I would be better off going just Neutral for the wizard it sounds like.
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I don't know how you can have a different alignment patron, but then have the restriction of shifting away from his chosen outsider alignment.
I think it is supposed to be read that the patron is fine with you shifting alingment TO their alignment but shifting away is a game breaker.
With the code of conduct restrictions, taking an evil patron will eventually nudge you down and evil path if you want to keep your power. And vice versa.
So I would be better off going just Neutral for the wizard it sounds like.
Yes. You still have to consider your actions, just not as much.
With the code of conduct restrictions, taking an evil patron will eventually nudge you down and evil path if you want to keep your power. And vice versa.
And, Yes.
I'll probably go LN....less work on the Cabal Devils part in the long run :P