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Thanks, makes sense with the Take 10 condition. To make sure I'm understanding, I just have to not fail by 5 or more with a take 10, correct? Otherwise, I just make progress towards the end result and it may take longer, but that's not an issue when time has no meaning.That is incorrect you still have to meet the DC.
As you can see if your T10 ends with a overall check of 24 on DC 25 item you fail to make progress. Not until you hit the DC do you make progress therefore you craft the item.
Retry? Yes, but if you fail a check by 4 or less, you make no progress this week (or day, see below). If you miss by 5 or more, you ruin half the raw materials and have to pay half the original raw material cost again.
He can add master craftsman to his list , that should let him make just about anything he can afford.
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Yes antitoxin and antiplaque are good choices to craft, but pale in comparison to a Wand of Cure Light Wounds.
I admit I go through more acids and fires, because as a Grenadier I use them to help buff the whole party's damage output.
Can't craft a wand of CLW in PFS, for starters. And nothing prevents you from spending the 2 PP to get one in addition to whatever you craft...
And, as ever, not getting the disease, or being affected by the poison, in the first place, is the best way to cure it.
Seriously, there are some diseases and poisons that are ugly to begin with.
And I know of one poison, that if you can't deal with it quickly, is likely to be fatal. Starts at DC 16 of 18, and, of course, as every failed save for the additional doses does, that increases the DC to overcome it by 2 for each dose. And the source can deliver, IIRC, 6 doses per round. And, of course, as a poison, it does Con damage.
And Lesser Restorations, at the level this poison is faced, are difficult to come by, much less a regular Restoration. I think our party survived this only because we had an Oracle who could spam Delay Poisons until we could deal with it.
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Yes antitoxin and antiplaque are good choices to craft, but pale in comparison to a Wand of Cure Light Wounds.
I admit I go through more acids and fires, because as a Grenadier I use them to help buff the whole party's damage output.
Can't craft a wand of CLW in PFS, for starters. And nothing prevents you from spending the 2 PP to get one in addition to whatever you craft...
And, as ever, not getting the disease, or being affected by the poison, in the first place, is the best way to cure it.
Seriously, there are some diseases and poisons that are ugly to begin with.
And I know of one poison, that if you can't deal with it quickly, is likely to be fatal. Starts at DC 16 of 18, and, of course, as every failed save for the additional doses does, that increases the DC to overcome it by 2 for each dose. And the source can deliver, IIRC, 6 doses per round. And, of course, as a poison, it does Con damage.
And Lesser Restorations, at the level this poison is faced, are difficult to come by, much less a regular Restoration. I think our party survived this only because we had an Oracle who could spam Delay Poisons until we could deal with it.
Okay I was talking about buying a Wand of Cure Light Wounds over crafting one, which in PFS is merely buying items a 1/3 cost. I have used the Wand 22 times since I brought, yet haven't need one antitoxin or antiplaque.
I get there is some nasty plaques and poisons that the bad guys get to use out there. They come up once in a while, more reason for more time to find out what you will be fighting then being pushed into combat. I was just pointing out that parties lose hp every adventure, and so far not many like to play a cleric. People avoid clerics to a point it has been spoken about on a thread here recently.
And, as I am sure was mentioned in the thread, that is, yet again, something that varies by region.
I have a couple of full clerics, a Life Oracle, and a couple of multi-class PCs able to use wands of various forms of healing... And that is just me.
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Of course, but if you have to decide then get the Wand. Save up for the Wand ASAP. Again the Wand works for every game, while the antitoxin or antiplaque comes in once in a while.Cure light wounds and antiplague/toxin is like antibiotics and limb splints. They're fixing entirely different things, snag both.
When in the world would it come to a choice?
Wand of CLW (or Infernal Healing or whatever) is a 1st level pick up, normally right after your first game. And it's got with PP. Making Alchemical items is just cheap, and costed (at 1st level and after) with GP.
SO... when would you ever "have to decide"?
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Okay I was talking about buying a Wand of Cure Light Wounds over crafting one, which in PFS is merely buying items a 1/3 cost. I have used the Wand 22 times since I brought, yet haven't need one antitoxin or antiplaque.
I get there is some nasty plaques and poisons that the bad guys get to use out there. They come up once in a while, more reason for more time to find out what you will be fighting then being pushed into combat. I was just pointing out that parties lose hp every adventure, and so far not many like to play a cleric. People avoid clerics to a point it has been spoken about on a thread here recently.
Sorry, just to clarify, are you saying you are buying Wands of CLW for 750 gp or 1/3 that? It sounds like you said you bought your wand for 250gp.
And if you're ever at a big convention where you don't know anyone yet, simply walk into the PFS muster area and announce you have a cleric and you need a party. You will have 5 new friends really fast. :-)
And that's not to say cleric is the only way to immediately summon adventuring party. I've seen great successes with life oracle, paladin, and bard.
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Okay I was talking about buying a Wand of Cure Light Wounds over crafting one, which in PFS is merely buying items a 1/3 cost. I have used the Wand 22 times since I brought, yet haven't need one antitoxin or antiplaque.
I get there is some nasty plaques and poisons that the bad guys get to use out there. They come up once in a while, more reason for more time to find out what you will be fighting then being pushed into combat. I was just pointing out that parties lose hp every adventure, and so far not many like to play a cleric. People avoid clerics to a point it has been spoken about on a thread here recently.
Sorry, just to clarify, are you saying you are buying Wands of CLW for 750 gp or 1/3 that? It sounds like you said you bought your wand for 250gp.
And if you're ever at a big convention where you don't know anyone yet, simply walk into the PFS muster area and announce you have a cleric and you need a party. You will have 5 new friends really fast. :-)
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No. Not at all. I was answer another post. I was talking about buying on over crafting one, which the other post said was illegal.
Crafting in PFS is buying approve items at 1/3 the cost. According to the rules only the Alchemist and Inquister can craft items, and only Alchemical items.
Alchemist and Investigator. (And gunslingers can craft ammo.)
Basically, you have to have a class feature that requires crafting to function.
And CLW wands are not alchemical items, so not relevant to this.
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I apologize, but My Comment about the Wand of Cure Lights Wounds was as advice of what to buy as an Alchemist. If you read the entire thread you could of put that together. I understand if you were confused on some subjects, but you don't get to decide what is relevant to the discussion be had.
Alchemist and Investigator. (And gunslingers can craft ammo.)
Basically, you have to have a class feature that requires crafting to function.
And CLW wands are not alchemical items, so not relevant to this.
And your comment was both unclear and not relevant to the original post:
I apologize for asking as I know this topic has been covered quite extensively on these forums, but I had a quick question about Alchemy use in PFS.
If I'm understanding correctly, Alchemists can craft most academical items so long as they have the craft alchemy skill at 1/3 the cost. The question I have is how much downtime do we have between sessions?
It sounds like it is open season, and I can craft as much as I want. Is this true? Is there any ruling somewhere that says there's no limit to downtime?
So, not asking advice on purchases, just asking for clarification on how Alchemist's crafting works in PFS.
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So gunslingers can make own ammo and powder at one tenth the price and alchemist can make alchemist items at one third the price? Why the disparity?
Because those are the actual crafting rules for those items.
Alchemical items, in general, cost 1/3rd to craft.
Loose powder and ammo cost 10% to craft.
Alchemical cartridges, on the other hand, cost 50% to craft.
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So gunslingers can make own ammo and powder at one tenth the price and alchemist can make alchemist items at one third the price? Why the disparity?Because those are the actual crafting rules for those items.
Alchemical items, in general, cost 1/3rd to craft.
Loose powder and ammo cost 10% to craft.
Alchemical cartridges, on the other hand, cost 50% to craft.
Although it's a bit off-topic from the discussion of crafting Alchemical items, here's a cost breakdown of Gunsmithing items.
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So, not asking advice on purchases, just asking for clarification on how Alchemist's crafting works in PFS.
After answer that question, if you read the thread and not just cherry pick, the discussion turned to items that are helpful to an Alchemist. Since the Alchemist can use a Wand of Cure Light Wounds I advised buying one. So it is relevant as the thread progressed.
Are you all done trying to pick fights?? Or do we need a thread on how to have a discussion?
Point of note, after a quick review of the thread, you are the one who took it off topic, so... It seems a bit disingenuous to defend your off topic post by pointing out that the subject had shifted. Also it is good forum etiquette to make a new thread if the subject changes.
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I admit I do find alchemist crafting + bombs a little weird.
It is like saying "the alchemist can craft items at 1/3 the cost. And X times per day they can craft an upgraded item at 0 cost." It feels like two mechanics that are trying to both do the same thing different ways.
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So alchemist fire cost 6.67 gold instead of 20.
I just made an alchemist and liked the class, also saw how amazing the throw anything skill was when using the flasks (even though I suspect that at later levels it will be a negligible advantage).
What page/source should I used if challenged on this?
You should use the write-up on the Alchemist in the APG, as that is where that ability, Throw Anything, is given (page 28), including the Alchemist's benefit of adding Int mod to damage, unlike the normal feat.
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He means the PFS crafting exemption.
I believe it is in either the FAQ or the additional resources
Looked more like asking for the proof on the Throw Anything class ability, but the crafting is in the PFS FAQ at How can alchemists craft in Pathfinder Society Organized Play?
Alchemists can use the Craft (alchemy) skill to produce items with their Alchemy ability. Follow the Craft rules on pages 91–93 of the Pathfinder RPG Core Rulebook as well as in the alchemist’s Alchemy ability description. Any item created must be properly noted on that scenario’s Chronicle sheet. Under "Items Bought", note the amount of gold spent and the item created. Alchemists are assumed, for Pathfinder Society Organized Play, to carry the necessary items and tools with them to use available resources to create alchemical items. If they have a base of operations from which to do so, they may use an alchemy lab to gain the +2 bonus on their Craft (alchemy) check. Alchemists may never sell any of their created items nor may they trade them to another PC. However, they may allow other PCs to borrow or use items they’ve created (so long as the alchemist class ability being used allows them to do so).