Species dysphoria and clonepods


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So let us say that I have a level 12 technomancer with an obsession with Angels. She also has ~100k gold kicking around and the appropriate tech-crafting feats to make a clonepod and a neurocam. She also has an unhealthy obsession with Angels and through magic, diplomacy, and questing manages to get a single feather from a medium-sized astral deva or whatever.

A few weeks of crafting, cloning, wearing a dorky helmet, and ritual suicide later she is (unless I am mistaken) an angel.

This also works for literally any race that weighs in at "medium size or smaller."

What happens then? What special abilities does she have? Does she now count as a different creature type? Did I miss some key element that makes this trick not work?

Silver Crusade Contributor

Well, now I really want to do this.

As for rules, I dunno. There's the two-point reduction in all ability scores. Other than that, the various sources simply don't address this - the clone spell offers nothing for us, nor does the clonepod address exotic races. So, GM's interpretation, it appears. Sorry. :)


Dragon seems even more abusable, sure you may START with your boring ol' baseline (minus 2) mental stats, but then your wyrmling dragon body starts to grow and your mental stats follow suit.

Silver Crusade Contributor

Ooooh... or nymph.

EDIT: I probably wouldn't get the Charisma. But, still.


I think the important thing is, while it is a copy of the character's mind it is not you. Because the neurocam copies your memories and who you are. And then you upload that into another body. And you're still alive. And then there's you with a angel body and you who is still in your normal body.


Quote:
Uploading a mind from a neurocam into a clone takes 10 minutes. If the mind belonged to the same creature that was used to grow the clone, it immediately comes back to life as if under the effects of a clone spell (including 2 negative levels or 2 points of Constitution drain)—provided the user's soul has not yet passed to the Boneyard and been judged. It possesses the same Intelligence, Wisdom, and Charisma of the original mind, all of that creature's skills, and most of the memories and personality of the creature (though there may be gaps or differences). A mind uploaded into a clone after its soul has been judged results in a soulless approximation of the original.

The bolded parts suggest that soul transference happens. Though I suppose it is a GM's call.

Alternatively, I suppose Magic Jar could take advantage of an otherwise mindless empty shell of a body. Lot more labor-intensive, of course, but for a high level caster you have the option.

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