How does a Half-Fiend gain flight without wings?


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I've been building a Human Half-Fiend for a week now and cannot find an absolute answer to the question.

For those interested the simple backstory for this merge is a Human Female Cleric and a Fiend [wards and traps are his speciality] killed them, and using magic that is forbidden reserrected them merged them and they now share the memories of both). Other than the characters finger nails, there is no obvious sign to this fiended nature, both characters are looking to seperate from each other, and the fiend is looking at becoming an agent of Good, depending on the players actions towards this creature as they are one person.

The problem I am facing now is too many sources of information and a headache trying to seperate these into an actual answer, with the base question still left as a puzzler.

Without wings, one source says it gets flight with either as a Supernatural or Spell-Like Ability; but doesn't say how to resolve which point is true. Another source simply says they get flight period. One other source [which I don't actually believe is Pathfinder] says they don't get flight at all.

I like knowing the why's to things. Why would a Half-Fiend get flight using Supernatural over Spell-Like; or vice-versa, and is there an actual source of this information?

All helpful information welcome, I like having information ready for when the GM asks questions and judges if my answer is worth the desired "Yes and okay" reply.


Well, the template says:

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Speed: Unless the base creature flies better, the half-fiend flies at twice the base creature's land speed (good).

and the template is written assuming that the creature will grow wings. If they do not have them, I would say it would count as supernatural, as it has nothing to do with a spell.


They grow wings, if you made it otherwise, I would make it an SLA 1/day. Supernatural flying is a lot different than Extraordinary flying.

Scarab Sages

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Accumulation of large amounts of gas which they expel out of orifices for steering and propulsion?


The real question is, how can a half-fiend (or any winged character for that matter) fly when wearing fullplate? How would you even be able to put your armor on?

Scarab Sages

Custom armor man with places for the wings. Besides full plate is not necessarily a solid piece of metal, its typically a series of plates held together with straps, its easy to adjust for a good fit.


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The real question is, how can a half-fiend (or any winged character for that matter) fly when wearing fullplate? How would you even be able to put your armor on?

Yes. Absolutely. This is the shocking, confusing and enraging question of our time.

Bring someone back to life by waving a symbol and being chanty for a moment? Of course people can do that.

Fly while having wings? What are you on about you crazy person, you????

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