| CECShocktrooper |
So just read over the dimensional feats, and I think the concept for a flash-step kind od character would be cool, either as a pc or npc. Besides monk already gaining/using those feats, would a magus, spellslinger or possibly a multi class work for this concept? It's flashy granted it's not the MOST effective build. Any thoughts?
I'm just waiting to drink all the hater-ade now lol
| chaoseffect |
The Dimensional Chain is very cool, but it does have issues in that for any class that can at least kind of use it effectively (i.e. the classes that get Dim Door and 3/4 BAB), you are spending a lot of resources for a very limited number of times it can be used per day. I'd see this to be better as a NPC thing as chances are they are only meant to live for one combat anyway.
It's straight up gangster if you are playing gestalt though.
| CECShocktrooper |
The Dimensional Chain is very cool, but it does have issues in that for any class that can at least kind of use it effectively (i.e. the classes that get Dim Door and 3/4 BAB), you are spending a lot of resources for a very limited number of times it can be used per day. I'd see this to be better as a NPC thing as chances are they are only meant to live for one combat anyway.
It's straight up gangster if you are playing gestalt though.
Could scrolls alleviate this problem? Like. A whole fat stack? Lol
| chaoseffect |
I don't think so. The way the feats read is that they give you a reduced casting time for Dimension Door on top of their other effects, but using a scroll is always at minimum a standard action. Even if that wasn't the case with scroll speeds, you're using a spell completion (scroll) or spell trigger item (wand), not casting.
| Durngrun Stonebreaker |
I don't think so. The way the feats read is that they give you a reduced casting time for Dimension Door on top of their other effects, but using a scroll is always at minimum a standard action. Even if that wasn't the case with scroll speeds, you're using a spell completion (scroll) or spell trigger item (wand), not casting.
Wand Wielder arcana and a wand of Dimension Door works for the first feat, Dimensional Agility.
| CECShocktrooper |
Spell Dancer magus can start taking the feats at 9th level and can use Dimension Door by spending arcane points.
Oh cool! I was wondering why'd they list the feats for other classes to use. If someone (DEFINETELY not me *cough cough* wanted to design a flash step pc/npc to use firearms, would that be a possibility on either end?
| Durngrun Stonebreaker |
Durngrun Stonebreaker wrote:Spell Dancer magus can start taking the feats at 9th level and can use Dimension Door by spending arcane points.Oh cool! I was wondering why'd they list the feats for other classes to use. If someone (DEFINETELY not me *cough cough* wanted to design a flash step pc/npc to use firearms, would that be a possibility on either end?
Not really a lot of synergies there but off the top of my head: 9 levels of Spell Dancer, 5 levels of Gunslinger, 1 level of Wizard (Spellslinger) would give you Dex to damage and you could cast spells through your gun to buff your DCs. Low BAB but you're hitting touch ACs.
| CECShocktrooper |
CECShocktrooper wrote:Not really a lot of synergies there but off the top of my head: 9 levels of Spell Dancer, 5 levels of Gunslinger, 1 level of Wizard (Spellslinger) would give you Dex to damage and you could cast spells through your gun to buff your DCs. Low BAB but you're hitting touch ACs.Durngrun Stonebreakermy wrote:Spell Dancer magus can start taking the feats at 9th level and can use Dimension Door by spending arcane points.Oh cool! I was wondering why'd they list the feats for other classes to use. If someone (DEFINETELY not me *cough cough* wanted to design a flash step pc/npc to use firearms, would that be a possibility on either end?
Lastly, juuuust to ask, what order would be best to take those levels would you think? My friend is playing a gunslinger and I mentioned to him it would be a cool concept for Him IF it could work.
| Durngrun Stonebreaker |
Durngrun Stonebreaker wrote:Lastly, juuuust to ask, what order would be best to take those levels would you think? My friend is playing a gunslinger and I mentioned to him it would be a cool concept for Him IF it could work.CECShocktrooper wrote:Not really a lot of synergies there but off the top of my head: 9 levels of Spell Dancer, 5 levels of Gunslinger, 1 level of Wizard (Spellslinger) would give you Dex to damage and you could cast spells through your gun to buff your DCs. Low BAB but you're hitting touch ACs.Durngrun Stonebreakermy wrote:Spell Dancer magus can start taking the feats at 9th level and can use Dimension Door by spending arcane points.Oh cool! I was wondering why'd they list the feats for other classes to use. If someone (DEFINETELY not me *cough cough* wanted to design a flash step pc/npc to use firearms, would that be a possibility on either end?
You would have to go straight magus to start taking the Dimensional feats at 9th level. Spell Dancers lose the ability to buff their weapon using arcane pool so you won't be doing much damage until you get your 5 levels of gunslinger. There's probably a better way to go about it. I think there is a fighter archetype that gets Dex to damage at first level but I'm not sure what it is.
| Durngrun Stonebreaker |
Remembered another option. Summoner (Synthesist)
(Sp): At 6th level, whenever the synthesist is fused with his eidolon, the synthesist can cast dimension door as a spell-like ability using his caster level. This ability only affects the fused synthesist and eidolon. The synthesist can use this ability once per day at 6th level, plus one additional time per day for every six levels beyond 6th. This ability replaces maker's call and transposition.
You could start the feat chain at 7th level but couldn't use it as often.
| chaoseffect |
The summoner has 3rd level spells which include dimension door and gets it as a spell like ability so he gets more uses out of it
Maker's Call is very specific in what it does even if it functions as Dimension Door. I don't see it working with the Dimensional feats beyond Dimensional Agility.
| cnetarian |
Maker's Jump (Sp): At 6th level, whenever the synthesist is fused with his eidolon, the synthesist can cast dimension door as a spell-like ability using his caster level. This ability only affects the fused synthesist and eidolon. The synthesist can use this ability once per day at 6th level, plus one additional time per day for every six levels beyond 6th. This ability replaces maker's call and transposition.
| cnetarian |
Also note:
3 levels horizon walker prestige class using terrain dominance (astral) can be tacked on to a full BAB class to get dimension door, and dimensional agility at level 9.
abusing the samsaran mythic past life and dimension door being a level 3 summoner spell,if your GM doesn't quash this, a character can get Dimension Door at level 5 as a wizard/witch (6 sorc), then switch to a full BAB class and have Dimensional Dervish at level 9.