Cleaving Finish and Vital Strike


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Can you use vital strike on an attack action you got from cleaving finish?

Shadow Lodge

No but,...

The wording of the 2 feats have a non specific wording that if you use vital strike on a target and kill it, then you would get to vital strike again for the next me lee attack as well. It's a gm call whether or not it works this way.


TheSideKick wrote:

No but,...

The wording of the 2 feats have a non specific wording that if you use vital strike on a target and kill it, then you would get to vital strike again for the next me lee attack as well. It's a gm call whether or not it works this way.

Oh, well I was planning on starting it with a vital strike anyway, so I guess that works out.

Liberty's Edge

This FAQ about Vital Strike indicates that you cannot use Vital Strike in combination with Cleaving Finish.

Vital Strike wrote:
When you use the attack action, you can make one attack at your highest base attack bonus that deals additional damage.
Cleaving Finish wrote:
If you make a melee attack, and your target drops to 0 or fewer hit points as a result of your attack, you can make another melee attack using your highest base attack bonus against another opponent within reach.

The FAQ specifically differentiates the "attack action" described in the Vital Strike from the "melee attack" described in Cleaving Finish.

Vital Strike FAQ wrote:
Vital Strike can only be used as part of an attack action, which is a specific kind of standard action. Spring Attack is a special kind of full-round action that includes the ability to make one melee attack, not one attack action.


You can use the attack action to make a melee attack.


You can Vital Strike a target, and if they go down hit another target within reach with Cleaving Finish.

You cannot make the second hit a Vital Strike though.


baradakas wrote:

This FAQ about Vital Strike indicates that you cannot use Vital Strike in combination with Cleaving Finish.

Vital Strike wrote:
When you use the attack action, you can make one attack at your highest base attack bonus that deals additional damage.
Cleaving Finish wrote:
If you make a melee attack, and your target drops to 0 or fewer hit points as a result of your attack, you can make another melee attack using your highest base attack bonus against another opponent within reach.

The FAQ specifically differentiates the "attack action" described in the Vital Strike from the "melee attack" described in Cleaving Finish.

Vital Strike FAQ wrote:
Vital Strike can only be used as part of an attack action, which is a specific kind of standard action. Spring Attack is a special kind of full-round action that includes the ability to make one melee attack, not one attack action.

That example uses a feat that doesn't use an attack action though, it uses a full-round action in the vein of power attack using a standard action.

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kestral287 wrote:

You can Vital Strike a target, and if they go down hit another target within reach with Cleaving Finish.

You cannot make the second hit a Vital Strike though.

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