| Inlaa |
It should be obvious what sort of character concept I'm chewing on here given the questions below. A few of these questions I'm not asking because I expect the answer to be 'yes' but because I want to confirm that it's a 'no.' Either way, here goes...
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1) If you have the Animal Ally feat and you gain an animal companion later, do you lose the benefits of the Animal Ally feat or do you have two animal companions?
2) Can you purposely NOT obtain an animal companion via a class feature you possess so that you may benefit from the Animal Ally feat, or does having that class feature keep you from being able to take the Animal Ally feat?
3) Can you Fight Defensively while making an Aid Another action in combat?
4) Can you Fight Defensively while performing Combat Maneuvers in combat?
5) Can you stack Aid Another bonuses in combat? I have two examples: let's say I perform Aid Another twice in the same turn to affect the same person, and both times I try to improve their attack roll. If I hit AC 10 both times, do they gain the benefit of my Aid Another action twice to their next attack? What if two characters Aid Another in combat on the same individual before that individual's next attack?
6) Do you count as your own ally for purposes of Cooperative Combat?
At 11th level, when a tactician uses the aid another special attack, he may affect one additional ally per point of Intelligence bonus. For each ally that a tactician aids, he can pick whether to grant that ally the +2 bonus on its next attack against the opponent or the +2 bonus to AC against the opponent’s next attack on that ally, and can grant different allies different bonuses.
7) Can an animal companion in a PFS game take the Additional Traits feat?
| Chess Pwn |
1) Animal Ally uses your non-animal companion class levels to work from while the animal companion class levels get added to that.
2) Well, if you're a druid you can take a domain instead. Or there are archetypes that trade it away.
4) Yes
5) it's unclear, I say yes but others say no.
6) No, you can't aid yourself
7) If it has int 3 I think it's legal.
claudekennilol
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Well I got to #5 and my browser ate my post. Each answer was about 3 lines, and I'm not retyping it. So you get the short versions, which are devoid of references, explanation, alternate interpretations, and separation between opinion and fact.
No, no, no, yes, no, no, no.
7 is definitely a yes unless you can provide something that explicitly says it's no. "Animal companions with an Intelligence of 3 or higher can select any feat they are physically capable of using." Are you telling me that an AC is incapable of using traits such +2 initiative, +1 damage when flanking, or +2 will saves?
| Inlaa |
For the disagreements: are there any sources I should look for? #3, #4, #5 and #7 are the most important questions to me ATM.
By the way, here is why I thought #3 was worth asking...
You can choose to fight defensively when attacking. If you do so, you take a –4 penalty on all attacks in a round to gain a +2 dodge bonus to AC until the start of your next turn.
In melee combat, you can help a friend attack or defend by distracting or interfering with an opponent. If you're in position to make a melee attack on an opponent that is engaging a friend in melee combat, you can attempt to aid your friend as a standard action. You make an attack roll against AC 10...
Since you make an attack roll, it seemed ambiguous to me. You're "attacking" AC 10. It's not a Full Attack action, though, nor is it an Attack action, but I want to be doubly sure that I can't Fight Defensively while Aiding my allies before I go back to the drawing board.
| Ciaran Barnes |
Ciaran Barnes wrote:7 is definitely a yes unless you can provide something that explicitly says it's no. "Animal companions with an Intelligence of 3 or higher can select any feat they are physically capable of using." Are you telling me that an AC is incapable of using traits such +2 initiative, +1 damage when flanking, or +2 will saves?Well I got to #5 and my browser ate my post. Each answer was about 3 lines, and I'm not retyping it. So you get the short versions, which are devoid of references, explanation, alternate interpretations, and separation between opinion and fact.
No, no, no, yes, no, no, no.
7 is a definite no, unless the animal companion has an Intelligence of 3 or higher. Why would I assume that it does?
claudekennilol
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claudekennilol wrote:7 is a definite no, unless the animal companion has an Intelligence of 3 or higher. Why would I assume that it does?Ciaran Barnes wrote:7 is definitely a yes unless you can provide something that explicitly says it's no. "Animal companions with an Intelligence of 3 or higher can select any feat they are physically capable of using." Are you telling me that an AC is incapable of using traits such +2 initiative, +1 damage when flanking, or +2 will saves?Well I got to #5 and my browser ate my post. Each answer was about 3 lines, and I'm not retyping it. So you get the short versions, which are devoid of references, explanation, alternate interpretations, and separation between opinion and fact.
No, no, no, yes, no, no, no.
It's not a "definite no" if you can qualify it. By that same reasoning it's not a "definite yes" as I stated. It's a "yes if you have an int of 3 or more." Or "no unless you have have 3 more int."
Why would you assume it doesn't? Not all ACs are dumb.
| thorin001 |
It should be obvious what sort of character concept I'm chewing on here given the questions below. A few of these questions I'm not asking because I expect the answer to be 'yes' but because I want to confirm that it's a 'no.' Either way, here goes...
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1) If you have the Animal Ally feat and you gain an animal companion later, do you lose the benefits of the Animal Ally feat or do you have two animal companions?
2) Can you purposely NOT obtain an animal companion via a class feature you possess so that you may benefit from the Animal Ally feat, or does having that class feature keep you from being able to take the Animal Ally feat?
3) Can you Fight Defensively while making an Aid Another action in combat?
4) Can you Fight Defensively while performing Combat Maneuvers in combat?
5) Can you stack Aid Another bonuses in combat? I have two examples: let's say I perform Aid Another twice in the same turn to affect the same person, and both times I try to improve their attack roll. If I hit AC 10 both times, do they gain the benefit of my Aid Another action twice to their next attack? What if two characters Aid Another in combat on the same individual before that individual's next attack?
6) Do you count as your own ally for purposes of Cooperative Combat?
Quote:At 11th level, when a tactician uses the aid another special attack, he may affect one additional ally per point of Intelligence bonus. For each ally that a tactician aids, he can pick whether to grant that ally the +2 bonus on its next attack against the opponent or the +2 bonus to AC against the opponent’s next attack on that ally, and can grant different allies different bonuses.7) Can an animal companion in a PFS game take the Additional Traits feat?
1) You no longer meet the prereqs for Animal Ally, so you lose the effects of that feat. Just like you can no longer use Power Attack if your Str drops below 13.
2) For this purpose you still have the class feature. Thus you still do not qualify for Animal Ally. The critter itself is irrelevant to the prereqs.
3) The rules are a bit unclear here. As a standard action it implies that it is a separate action from an attack action. But for a full attack it is definitely not its own action, merely an optional modifier on attack rolls. I would say yes, so long as there is an attack roll involved.
4) See 3 above.
5) Yes. It says that they stack in the description of Aid Another.
6) It should, but the part about being silly in the FAQ gives those that say no to everything enough wiggle room to say no.
7) Yes, as long as the AC has an Int of 3+.
| thorin001 |
Well I got to #5 and my browser ate my post. Each answer was about 3 lines, and I'm not retyping it. So you get the short versions, which are devoid of references, explanation, alternate interpretations, and separation between opinion and fact.
No, no, no, yes, no, no, no.
3 and 4 need to have the same answer. They both ask the same question, Can you fight defensively when making an attack roll not from the Attack action?
| Ciaran Barnes |
Claude, standard animal companions do not qualify for such feats. Animal companions with an Intelligence of 3 or more are an exception. There are exceptions to many general rules, but the OP has given no indication that he has an ability that make an exception. You and I both understand the rule, but have different ways of organizing the information in our heads.
Thorin if I understand your statement correctly, then I do not agree. Some combat maneuvers are standard actions, some are used in place of an attack. Aid another is a standard action unless you have an ability to make it otherwise. Another exception.
| thorin001 |
Claude, standard animal companions do not qualify for such feats. Animal companions with an Intelligence of 3 or more are an exception. There are exceptions to many general rules, but the OP has given no indication that he has an ability that make an exception. You and I both understand the rule, but have different ways of organizing the information in our heads.
Thorin if I understand your statement correctly, then I do not agree. Some combat maneuvers are standard actions, some are used in place of an attack. Aid another is a standard action unless you have an ability to make it otherwise. Another exception.
All combat maneuvers are attack roll, it does not matter if it is a separate standard action or part of an attack action. Aid another to help an ally's to hit or AC is an attack roll. So the question is, is fighting defensively its own action, or is it a modifier to any attack roll?
| Ciaran Barnes |
I would allow a combo of fighting defensively and a combat maneuver, but only if the combat maneuver can be performed in place of an attack. Each specific combat maneuver states if it can be performed in place of an attack or if it requires its own special action (usually a standard action). While typing this, I'm looking at the rules for combat maneuvers on d20srd.com. By my understanding, allowing a combat maneuver that requires it's own standard action to be combined with fighting defensively would be a house rule.
| thorin001 |
I would allow a combo of fighting defensively and a combat maneuver, but only if the combat maneuver can be performed in place of an attack. Each specific combat maneuver states if it can be performed in place of an attack or if it requires its own special action (usually a standard action). While typing this, I'm looking at the rules for combat maneuvers on d20srd.com. By my understanding, allowing a combat maneuver that requires it's own standard action to be combined with fighting defensively would be a house rule.
The rules certainly support that interpretation. In which case you cannot fight defensively while using the aid another action.
| Gwen Smith |
Fighting defensively has both the "standard action" and "full attack action" options, which kind of boils down to "any time you make an attack roll". (Not sure why they phrased it that way, under two separate paragraphs, but they did.)
In our area, the general take is "If you are making an attack roll, you can usually fight defensively." My halfling cavalier aids another defensively on a regular basis with no problems so far.
claudekennilol
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Claude, standard animal companions do not qualify for such feats. Animal companions with an Intelligence of 3 or more are an exception. There are exceptions to many general rules, but the OP has given no indication that he has an ability that make an exception. You and I both understand the rule, but have different ways of organizing the information in our heads.
By ability to make an exception you mean leveling up his companion and giving it bonus ability points? I'm pretty sure he has that ability..