Agile Chainsaw Build


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Say you have a chainsaw, and you're either a goblin or a human. Say you're starting at level 1 (just bear with me here).

How would you make this character focus on grace? They can have a good Strength, obviously (hell, some barbarian levels could be fun if you could get Whirling Frenzy houseruled in) but Dexterity should be a primary consideration.

How would you go about it?

Grand Lodge

What's allowed?


There's a few threads already about stacking sneak attack to get Dastardly Finish ASAP. The deadly characteristic and high base damage on a chainsaw would help the actual coup de grace. A one-shot kill is likely more 'graceful' than hacking away with a chainsaw in a melee.


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I'd probably make a Chainsaw Ninja to capitalize on the fact that an invisible Goblin can probably beat most people's Perception checks even when he's taking -10 on Stealth checks for carrying a running chainsaw. I imagine that sneak attack damage is often inflicted in a high-Dex manner.


Would make you a bit weird but here is my suggestion.
Titan mauler 2 gets you Jotungrip which lets you wield a two handed weapon in one hand, using it like a one handed weapon for the sake of things that rely on that stuff.
You might speak with your GM about using the Urban barbarian as well but they both trade fast movement so if this is for PFS you would be up a creek. However its a small thing and if you can pull it off that means once you hit L 3 you can buff your dexterity with rage.
Take weapon focus as your L1 feat
Swashbuckler as your L3 class nets you swashbucklers finesse and you grab Slashing grace as your L3 feat.
You now have a chainsaw that you can wield in one hand which applys for all further levels of swashbuckler as a viable weapon. Also dex to hit/damage.
Pick up an Effortless lace to negate the inappropriate size penalty.

But I imagine there are some holes in that concept. Luckily I have the internet to correct me.

Grand Lodge

Effortless Lace works on One-handed weapons only.

Chainsaw is Two-handed.


I think that a human wielding a Small chainsaw or a goblin wielding a Tiny one could use it as a one-handed weapon.

D20PFSRD says:
"The measure of how much effort it takes to use a weapon (whether the weapon is designated as a light, one-handed, or two-handed weapon for a particular wielder) is altered by one step for each size category of difference between the wielder's size and the size of the creature for which the weapon was designed. For example, a Small creature would wield a Medium one-handed weapon as a two-handed weapon. If a weapon's designation would be changed to something other than light, one-handed, or two-handed by this alteration, the creature can't wield the weapon at all."

Liberty's Edge

I think if it's still a two-handed weapon for a Tiny/Small creature, it's still a two-handed weapon for an effortless lace.

Unfortunately it looks like a similar restriction applies to Slashing Grace. You might need to pick up Martial Versatility (Slashing Grace) to apply it to the chainsaw.

Grand Lodge

Does the Chainsaw belong to a Fighter Weapon Group?


blackbloodtroll wrote:
What's allowed?

Anything Paizo.


Movin wrote:

Would make you a bit weird but here is my suggestion.

Titan mauler 2 gets you Jotungrip which lets you wield a two handed weapon in one hand, using it like a one handed weapon for the sake of things that rely on that stuff.
You might speak with your GM about using the Urban barbarian as well but they both trade fast movement so if this is for PFS you would be up a creek. However its a small thing and if you can pull it off that means once you hit L 3 you can buff your dexterity with rage.
Take weapon focus as your L1 feat
Swashbuckler as your L3 class nets you swashbucklers finesse and you grab Slashing grace as your L3 feat.
You now have a chainsaw that you can wield in one hand which applys for all further levels of swashbuckler as a viable weapon. Also dex to hit/damage.

But I imagine there are some holes in that concept. Luckily I have the internet to correct me.

This seems like the most plausible option, though it does depend on a certain reading of Jotungrip.

Swashbuckler would be awesome—Dex to damage, Improved Critical, everything a chainsaw-wielder could want—but it's very tricky to wrangle.

Liberty's Edge

blackbloodtroll wrote:
Does the Chainsaw belong to a Fighter Weapon Group?

Depends on the GM.

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