Hell Forum, its me again with probably silly questions..
Currently i´m playing a level 5 gnome bard and i wanted to make a list of items to get in the future.
My Character is not much of a fighter so he mainly uses his Versatile Performance with Oratory (and later Comedy) out of combat. However i also want to raise the DC´s of my Spells.
Now i want some items that
A) Boost my performance and / or boost my DC´s
or
B) Help my Character in any other way.
I know that Competence and other bonuses dont stack so so far i only found the combination of
and
to actually work.
Is that a misconception on my side?
I´m not playing Pathfinder that long so i hope some more experienced players can share some Knowledge..Thanks!
Boosting your DCs is relatively hard, beyond taking Spell Focus/Greater Spell Focus and buying a Cha-boosting headband.
If you let us know more details about your character, like your feats and stats, we'll be able to give you better advice on where to go from here.
I know that Competence and other bonuses dont stack so so far i only found the combination of
and
to actually work.
Is that a misconception on my side?
I´m not playing Pathfinder that long so i hope some more experienced players can share some Knowledge..Thanks!
Bonuses generally don't stack with other bonuses of the same type, but they do generally stack with other types and with untyped bonuses.
So competence bonuses will usually stack with bonuses that are insight, luck, enhancement, etc.
Boosting your DCs is relatively hard, beyond taking Spell Focus/Greater Spell Focus and buying a Cha-boosting headband.
If you let us know more details about your character, like your feats and stats, we'll be able to give you better advice on where to go from here.
Stats:
Strenght: 10
Dexterity: 13
Constitution: 13
Intelligence: 13
Wisdom: 12
Charisma: 18
Traits:
Fools for Friends
Benefit Whenever you take the aid another action to help an ally, or whenever an ally aids you in this manner, a successful check grants an additional +1 trait bonus to the check for which aid was being rendered. Additionally, as long as one of your friends is within 30 feet, you gain a +1 trait bonus on all saving throws against charm and compulsion effects.
Reactionary
You were bullied often as a child, but never quite developed an offensive response. Instead, you became adept at anticipating sudden attacks and reacting to danger quickly.
Benefit: You gain a +2 trait bonus on initiative checks.
Feats:
Craft Wonderous Item
Lingering Performance
Weapon Finesse
I know that Competence and other bonuses dont stack so so far i only found the combination of
and
to actually work.
Is that a misconception on my side?
I´m not playing Pathfinder that long so i hope some more experienced players can share some Knowledge..Thanks!
Bonuses generally don't stack with other bonuses of the same type, but they do generally stack with other types and with untyped bonuses.
So competence bonuses will usually stack with bonuses that are insight, luck, enhancement, etc.
Yeah and thats my problem. Take these for example:
Bracers of the Glib Entertainer
Aura moderate transmutation; CL 7th
Slot wrists; Price 7,900 gp; Weight 1 lb.
DESCRIPTION
These decorative bracers are stippled with vibrant colors and have various tiny bells sewn onto their surface.
While wearing them, the wearer gains a +5 competence bonus on Perform checks. Once per day on command, the user can gain the benefit of the glibness spell.
Circlet of Persuasion
Aura faint transmutation; CL 5th
Slot head; Price 4,500 gp; Weight —
DESCRIPTION
This delicately engraved silver headband grants its wearer a +3 competence bonus on Charisma-based checks.
Most of the Items that influence your Charisma or Charisma Based Skills, actually give a Competence or Enhancement bonus. Which stack with each other...But not with itself.
So if i would get Bracers of the Glib Entertainer, a Circlet of Persuasion would get redundant because of Versatile Performance:
Versatile Performance (Ex): At 2nd level, a bard can choose one type of Perform skill. He can use his bonus in that skill in place of his bonus in associated skills. When substituting in this way, the bard uses his total Perform skill bonus, including class skill bonus, in place of its associated skill's bonus, whether or not he has ranks in that skill or if it is a class skill. At 6th level, and every 4 levels thereafter, the bard can select an additional type of Perform to substitute.
In my case:
Oratory (Diplomacy, Sense Motive)
and at level 6
Comedy (Bluff, Intimidate)
It seems like so far Circlet of Persuasion and Headband of Mental Prowess are the only items that actually work together on a Bard because of the Bonus Restrictions on Enhancement and Competence Bonuses. Which is head scratching to me because there are like 4-5 items that give a bonus to Perform (dancing) alone..
yet none of them stack?
(Hope its a bit more clear now..English is not my first language sry)
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I can think of a few
http://www.archivesofnethys.com/EquipmentMiscDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Juggler% 27s%20kit
http://www.archivesofnethys.com/EquipmentMiscDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Tome%20o f%20epics
http://www.archivesofnethys.com/MagicWeaponsDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Blade%20o f%20Three%20Fancies
http://www.archivesofnethys.com/TraitDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Intense%20Artist
http://www.archivesofnethys.com/MagicWondrousDisplay.aspx?FinalName=Stone%2 0of%20Good%20Luck%20(Luckstone)
http://www.archivesofnethys.com/MagicWondrousDisplay.aspx?FinalName=Storyte ller%27s%20Dust
The deific boon of Shelyn
http://www.archivesofnethys.com/DeityDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Shelyn
I can think of a few
http://www.archivesofnethys.com/EquipmentMiscDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Juggler% 27s%20kithttp://www.archivesofnethys.com/EquipmentMiscDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Tome%20o f%20epics
http://www.archivesofnethys.com/MagicWeaponsDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Blade%20o f%20Three%20Fancies
http://www.archivesofnethys.com/TraitDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Intense%20Artist
http://www.archivesofnethys.com/MagicWondrousDisplay.aspx?FinalName=Stone%2 0of%20Good%20Luck%20(Luckstone)
http://www.archivesofnethys.com/MagicWondrousDisplay.aspx?FinalName=Storyte ller%27s%20Dust
The deific boon of Shelyn
http://www.archivesofnethys.com/DeityDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Shelyn
Hmh, these are all from paizo directly right? If thats the case i should have no problem giving them to my dm..Some bonuses are not specified so i should get away with them. Because some of them are really damn good. Thanks! Keep them coming :D
Yeah they're all paizo, the link should have the book and page number.