I was just looking thru the weapon table and noticed that ammunition was divided into types (simple/martial/exotic).
Now, looking at the rules for proficiencies "A character who uses a weapon with which he is not proficient takes a –4 penalty on attack rolls with that weapon."
So, is the ammo a weapon for purposes of the above? In other words, would a character using a weapon that he is proficient with and ammunition that he is not proficient with suffer a -4 on the attack roll?
Any insight into the RAW and RAI would be appreciated.
Can you give an example where a martial or simple weapon uses exotic ammunition?
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Other than shuriken (specifically stated as being treated as ammunition, even though it's used as a thrown weapon), ammunition does not have a different proficiency than the ranged weapon it's used with.
If using ammunition without the ranged weapon (melee or thrown), it follows the rules for improvised weapons.
Sling and all its various ammunitions (starstone, sharpstone, softstone ect). Also some classes/races get profici.encies with weapons that are martial, but not some of the ammo types.
As an extreme example, could an elf granted the longbow proficiency by race (weapon familiarity), use normal arrows (martial ammo), or any other kind of arrow. (assuming the class does not give all martial weapon proficiency)
Kind of makes me wonder why they broke ammunition out into simple, martial, and exotic types...
JustABill wrote: Sling and all its various ammunitions (starstone, sharpstone, softstone ect). Also some classes/races get profici.encies with weapons that are martial, but not some of the ammo types.
Thanks for the question by the way, as it forced me to look a little more and find an extreme example, could an elf granted the longbow proficiency by race (weapon familiarity), use normal arrows (martial ammo), or any other kind of arrow. (assuming the class does not give all martial weapon proficiency)
As long as you're firing the arrows WITH the bow, it makes no difference as to what kind of arrows they are. ammunition isn't martial, exotic, or whatever unless like shurikens they are defined weapon types themselves, which would make them thrown weapons.
If you're poking someone with an arrow in your hand, than it follows the rules for improvised weapons.
Thanks, that's what I figured.
I do not own Halflings of Golarion, which is where all of the exotic sling ammunition is.
To anyone that does, how is the ammunition listed? (and please don't go by d20pfsrd)
I'd imagine there's a bit of text somewhere that either treats Halflings as being proficient, or at least familiar with those types of ammunition.
Nefreet wrote: I do not own Halflings of Golarion, which is where all of the exotic sling ammunition is.
To anyone that does, how is the ammunition listed? (and please don't go by d20pfsrd)
I'd imagine there's a bit of text somewhere that either treats Halflings as being proficient, or at least familiar with those types of ammunition.
You'll notice that given that the race books were authored very early in Paizo's history, at least one or two of them being written for 3.5 instead of Pathfinder, you'll see that they aren't very uniform in approach or execution.
I imagined that could be a possibility, as well.
I've looked at Halfings of Golarion before, but its been a while and was not my book.
I believe you may need to be proficient in the exotic sling ammunition to avoid the penalties, but I also think halfings may be racially proficient. Not sure, its been too long for me to remember exactly.
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