| Sothas |
Alright, finally got around to making one of these and I've run into some rules issues (some that apply to other things non new as well).
1. Kinetic Blade:
With the use of Improved Unarmed Strike and Telekinetic Blast, would it be reasonable to assume you may use these in conjunction? There is, of course, Kinetic Fist which lets you punch stuff with your blast, but this assumes no proficiency with said fist
2. Telekinesis and Improved Grapple: So there's lots of talk all over about combat maneuver feats applying their bonuses to telekinesis and I'm firming in the mindset that they work as normal. So here's the situation I'm running into.
A concentration check is required to maintain the use of telekinesis. This check is a standard action. Maintaining a grapple is also a standard action. RAW, this means you cannot do both meaning you cannot use this spell for longer than a round in this way, which is obviously not the case. This means that the maintain action and the concentration action would have to be part of the same standard action. Now insert greater grapple. This makes maintaining a move action. I move to argue that this also makes the concentration check a move action as it is part of the same action. Moreover, if it does not make the concentration check a move action, it then makes grappling with telekinesis using greater grapple worse than if you didn't use the feat because you now use the move to maintain and the standard to concentrate. Some additional questions rise from this
3. Concentration: I point you to Effortless Trickery. This feat allows a gnome to maintain concentration on illusions as a swift action, thus freeing up all other actions for anything including casting spells. With this idea in mind, and the previous conclusion of #2, would this in turn allow one to maintain concentration of telekinesis to allow further spells to be cast as a standard action?
4. If all of the above are a yes, this then lends its self to the question of grappling to do damage.
Round 1: Grapple.
Round 2: Standard action for Kinetic Blade (Aether). Move action to grapple for damage using Kinetic Blade as above with Improved Unarmed Strike.
Is this reasonable? If not, would it be reasonable with Kinetic Fist instead?
| Zwordsman |
1) What do you mean by this? When using K-blade you form a weapon shaped out of your K-blast and attack with it. Are you asking if youcould form a fist? You could techincally form a guantlet but no matter the weapon you form it still fights the same.
If you mean improved unarm punch, and adding kblade to it? you could subsitute a punch instead of a blade hit in iteratives but that would lower you damage a ton...
So I don't know what you were asking really
2)Pretty sure you don't use a standard action for both. due to how telekensis the spell works: you spend your round concentrating (making concentratin check if applicable) and as a part of that you also use the combat manuever effects. Thats how the spell reads to me.
Greater grapple wouldn't apply to the concentration. As if you chose to do it sepreately it would be two effects. But is'nt greater grappled wored as "may do" as a move action? if so youcould simply chose not to change the actio nand just keep the benefits.
3)no clue. but my guess is yes. Because it is a 'rounds per level' and not a 'held' spell. so if yo ucould maintain you could do other things fine.
Except Efortless tricky specifies illusion spells as you noted. so it effects TK not at all. But if you had some way to do that.
4)If you could maintain concentration as a swift action in some unknown way, then could maintain a grapple using a move action you could then apply k-blade damage only if you did this after activating k-blade with your standard action. and only if you formed it into a light or onehanded weapon. Again i don'treally understand what you mean "using kblad with improved unarmed strike" so you'll have to clarify that for me
But if you used k-fist (again before move action so it's activated because I do not believe grapple and causing damage as a grapple are attack actions) then when you apply unarmed damage via grapple damage and a standard action punch then yes that would also work
This whole set up would apply k=blast damage twice (move and standard). But as far asI know there is no way to hold ocncentration longer except for effortless tricky-which is restricted to illusion