Cavalier clarifications, and charge fun.


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So, I have a cavalier, This cavalier is part of the order of the sword, woo. level... 7+ or so

He has

Spirited Charge:

Prerequisites: Ride 1 rank, Mounted Combat, Ride-By Attack.

Benefit: When mounted and using the charge action, you deal double damage with a melee weapon (or triple damage with a lance).


and all of the prerequisites. He charges with a lance, He manages to get a critical hit with his lance. He does triple damage on a charge, and triple damage crit, does this end up being 5d8 + 5x(static) Since i KNOW its not 3x 3x for a x9, but it should be 3x + 2x for 5x damage right?

Now, He hits level 8, he gets his

Mounted Mastery:

At 8th level, the cavalier ignores the armor check penalty when using the Ride skill, regardless of whether or not the creature he is riding is his mount. Whenever he makes a charge attack while mounted, he receives a +4 dodge bonus to his AC to avoid attacks set against his charge. When making such an attack, he can add his mount’s Strength modifier to the damage roll, in addition to his own. He also receives a bonus feat, chosen from the following list: Mounted Combat, Ride-By Attack, Skill Focus (Ride), Spirited Charge, Trample, or Unseat. He must qualify for the feat selected.

Now does his mounts str bonus get multiplied with everything else. bolded part.

Now, this Cavalier gets tired of riding just horses, he wants to ride cool things, so he takes levels in Mammoth Rider, his cool mount is now huge and nonsense like that, but he gets to level 8 of Mammoth Rider and gets

Combined Might:

At 8th level, a mounted mammoth rider strikes with the combined power of herself and her steed. Once per round, when the mammoth rider hits with a melee attack from astride her steed during a charge, she adds half her steed's Strength modifier to the damage roll in addition to her own, provided her steed is currently capable of taking a free action.

How would that stack with Mounted Mastery, does he now add his mounts strength and a half to his charges, or just still his base str bonus, making it a fluffy ability, and doing nothing.

Also, just for my clarification, Things that would get multiplied on a cavaliers charge: Power attack bonus, Magic weapon bonus, Strength bonus, Banner bonus damage, Challenge bonus damage, pretty much any other static bonus to damage.

Thank you for your input.

My reading would have it be a crit on a spirited charge 5x damage. That Mounted Mastery and Combined Might wouldn't stack, but I'd houserule a 1.5str bonus damage.


The Mammoth Rider feature doesn't stack with Mounted Mastery. You can only add a given attribute once per roll unless it's a typed bonus (insight, morale, etc.)

Everything else looks like business as usual for the Cavalier.

I recommend you take a different Order if you like the PrC or take the Beast Rider archetype and stay Cavalier!


Follow up question. Who needs the charge feats. If my mount has power attack and improved overrun, does the rider need them to benefit from the mounts overrunning charge, does the mount need charge through, or the cavalier?


Both rider and mount charge simultaneously. The question of who "needs" the feats is arcane and unfathomable though...

I'd say that all the Mounted Combat feats need to be taken by the rider though.


Thanks, I figured It was going to be something like that. My Cavalier has The mounted combat, ride by, and spirited charge, and ride by would let me hit the lance charge and then keep going so my mount could use whatever he wanted as an actual attack, since the lance normally out ranges the mount.


Where do you get banner bonus damage from? Banner only grants a morale bonus for attackrolls and saving throws against fear.

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