High Wisdom Fighter


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I'm a Kobold Fighter in a party of Kobolds with the following stats

Str 9
Dex 16
Con 13
Int 12
Wis 16
Cha 11

I don't want to change the stats or the class. Is there any way to make the Wisdom do more for me than Will saves and Perception? 3rd party is fine and 3.5 might be considered.


I would suggest a dip into another class. Monk for Wisdom to attack.

There is also the Guided enchant substituting strength for wisdom to attack/damage
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/magic-weapons/magic-weapons-non-core/we apon-property---guided

Or Guided Hand, a feat revolving around religion and wisdom for Wis to attack
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/-guided-hand


The 3rd party Pugilist fighter archetype from ICOSA Entertainment can give you Wisdom to AC, but it's lost when you're denied dex, it's capped by your fighter level, and it prohibits you from wearing armor. So, yeah, you'd probably be best off dipping in monk or something.


Errant Mercenary wrote:

I would suggest a dip into another class. Monk for Wisdom to attack.

Yes, more precisely the sensei monk archetype. I would then multiclass it with the unarmed fighter arcehtype.

Or the guided enchant if everything else is out of the table.


High wisdom and dexterity also open up several combat feat options (mostly having to do with unarmed strikes), such as Punishing Kick, Stance of the Xorn, and most feats ending in "Strike" or "Fist."

Also, you could consider the Mantis Style or Snake Style feat chain.


Errant Mercenary wrote:

I would suggest a dip into another class. Monk for Wisdom to attack.

There is also the Guided enchant substituting strength for wisdom to attack/damage
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/magic-weapons/magic-weapons-non-core/we apon-property---guided

Or Guided Hand, a feat revolving around religion and wisdom for Wis to attack
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/-guided-hand

Monks don't get wisdom bonus to attack. They get it to armor and ki pool. Is there a monk feat that gives wisdom to attack?

You have to have channel energy to get Guided Hand feat so the only ways I see to get that feat is a 1 level dip in cleric or 4 levels in a class like Paladin or Warpriest.

This is intended to be a relatively low magic campaign but I will keep the Guided enchantment in mind and make sure my DM knows about it.


Sohei monk archetype gives wisdom to unarmed and monk weapon attacks at 2nd level

Shadow Lodge

I would not recommend trying to get Wis to attack - it's more efficient for you to use Weapon Finesse and treat Dex as your primary stat with Wis secondary.

Snake Style is a strong option, especially since it can replace not only your normal AC but your touch AC. It's also pretty easy for a fighter to pick up. I'd recommend taking a trait like suspicious to boost your sense motive. With a 16 Wis and that trait you should have at least +12 Sense Motive at level 3 when you qualify for Snake Style. Depending on build, this may not be much better than your normal AC on an average sense motive check, but it's almost certainly going to blow your touch AC out of the water. If you've got a spare feat, Alertness or Skill Focus will boost that even further. Added bonus: out of combat utility.

If you are willing to consider a dip as long as you're mostly fighter, and a little magic is OK, I'd suggest inquisitor over monk. Inquisitor doesn't come with armour restrictions and two levels give you + Wis to initiative, + Wis to identify monsters, lots of skill points and class skills (including sense motive), a first level domain power, first level spells, detect alignment at will, +1 to track, sense motive, and intimidate, and a small swift action buff from judgment.


I 2nd the dip into inquisitor, theres an archtype for it at 3rd level for sneak attack.


amateur gunslinger?

gives you some access to shenanigans that is wisdom based, gives you a grit pool, you can then take amateur swashbuckler, and use grit because grit/panache are the same action pool, Now with tow feats it makes you more dodgy/riposty?


On that topic: Trench Fighter


Guns aren't available and although the inquisitor dip is interesting, I don't like sacrificing BAB if I can avoid it. However, I do like the Snake Style and am strongly considering the unarmed strike feat route.

Perhaps a fighting style that uses unarmed strike feats with a cestus to debuff and then uses spiked armor and a tail attachment when just need to do damage.


guns aren't available… don't use a gun

the feat is merely used to get wis based grit/panache


Pendagast wrote:

guns aren't available… don't use a gun

the feat is merely used to get wis based grit/panache

Oooh. I understand after reading. With a 1 level dip into swashbuckler and this feat, I would have access to both grit and panache abilities, gain points as a swashbuckler, and have a pool based on wisdom. That's a great idea.

Silver Crusade

Here is a useful guide. It is probably worth reading, and is pretty short.


Eigengrau wrote:
Sohei monk archetype gives wisdom to unarmed and monk weapon attacks at 2nd level

thats Sensei Monk.

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