So I was looking at the Hunter Pregen, Adowyn and Leryn and noticed this line:
Hunter Pregen wrote: and if Leryn dies (or if you don’t want to bring Leryn to this scenario), Adowyn can always have one aspect active in addition to a second aspect for one minute per day. Does this mean those PFS hunters can tell their animal friend to stay home when they go on certain missions? I can think of a few where the Animal companion would not be good for, who brings their pet wolf to a wedding or party (any of the highly social scenarios) or to face undead (Black Water and Among the Living come to mind) or has terrain that the animal companion will/would have trouble with, (Master of the Fallen Fortress would be an example of such).
Course, that line could just be pregen specific, hope not though.
It seems Adowyn specific.
For us normal hunters it means our animal companion has died in order to use that ability.
Looks pregen specific, sadly, and I would absolutely love it if that verbiage were applied universally. We've been having a spirited discussion of that all day just a thread away.
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Maybe we can get Campaign Management to weigh in on this?
It'd be more useful to leave my companion at home and benefit a bit, then to carry her around as a statue the entire adventure (yes, that has happened).
That same sheet (assuming you're looking at the lvl 7 version) says that Improved Natural Attack stacks with Strong Jaw. Is that official? Does it always stack or does it just stack for that Leryn?
@claudelennilol: Was there ever a question about INA and Strong Jaw? While they are both size increases, size is a stacking bonus (kinda like applying the giant template twice).
If it is pregen specific, which it is looking like it is, I can understand that. Saying "I leave fluffy home and gain +2 to my ability" is a little cheap. Course, killing fluffy to gain Fast Healing 1 is just as cheap imo.
I really hope it becomes a Society wide ruling though, as a hunter leaving their animal companion at home for the day cuts off a lot of their abilities, unlike ranger, druid or some clerics.
Size alterations(bonus is irrelevant here) stack unless they are from transmutation(polymorph) effects which don't function together anyhow.
A local druid regularly rolls 24d8(iirc) Vital Strikes.
Really? Because everyone on the rules forums thinks they don't stack. So if they do stack (or don't, either way) can you show me why they stack instead of just saying that they do?
Nope. I can't find either. Enlarge person outright says that "Multiple magical effects that increase size do not stack.", but that's that.
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Strong Jaw is magical, Improved Natural Attack is a feat.
While they have a similar effect, only one is magical.
While I can not point to a specific rule, I can easily liken it to Magic Weapon and Weapon Focus. 1 magic effect, 1 feat effect. However, no one questions that.
I think there is a FAQ out there, that lead blades and the impact weapon ability to not stack, due to the multiple similar abilities rule.
Regarding the OPs question, keeping your animal companion at home should always be an option. Regarding the permanent animal focus, I see this as an ability to keep the hunter useful if their animal dies, kinda like the 1min summons... of course if there was some way to share teamwork feats...
Oh I can dream, but considering, that the occult playtest is still going on I guess some FAQ requests will remain unanswered .. for this year.
I should point out, the pregen never says it gains the SNA boost, never mentions SNA at all actually. This can easily be explained in that, its a pregen, do not make it confusing with Summon spells. However, I would also take that as precedent that leaving the pet home ONLY gives ya the animal focus boost. Pet must be dead to gain the SNA boost.
Yes or you can just kill off your animal.
Sebastian Hirsch wrote: I think there is a FAQ out there, that lead blades and the impact weapon ability to not stack, due to the multiple similar abilities rule. There is, but those are more than just the same type of bonus: they're the exact same spell. Impact uses Lead Blades as its underlying magic component.
As far as Strong Jaw and Improved Natural Attack, I can't see any reason that they would not stack. Neither of these actually change the animal's size, so the "multiple magical effects that increase size" precedent from Enlarge Person applies.
As far as bonus type, Strong Jaw is a magical effect that makes the attack do damage "as if" one size larger. Since it says it "enhances" the natural attacks, you could argue it's an enhancement bonus.
Improved Natural Attack "increases" the damage "by one step". It's not a magical effect effect at all, and it's completely untyped.
Not only should these both stack with each other, I would also argue that they should also stack with Animal Growth, which actually does increase the creature's size.
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