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My DM and I were looking through the Advanced Rogue Talents to see what kind of things my Slayer could take, and I noticed that Improved Evasion does not have Evasion listed as a prerequisite. So my question is, can a Slayer take the Improved Evasion Advanced Rouge Talent at 10th level despite never receiving Evasion?
Looks like it by RAW. They didn't bother putting Evasion as a prereq because at the time that was written, there was no way for a 10+ level rogue to not have Evasion.
I am going to FAQ-flag this one, though, as I strongly suspect that should not be the case and it simply got overlooked.
wording of Improved Evasion:
"This works like evasion, except that while the rogue still takes no damage on a successful Reflex saving throw against attacks, she henceforth takes only half damage on a failed save. A helpless rogue does not gain the benefit of improved evasion."
It seems hard to tell. The wording of the feat doesn't even work if you don't have evasion. It says "while the rogue still takes no damage on a successful reflex saving throw" but the slayer taking the feat isn't "still taking no damage", he is at the point of taking half damage on a successful save. a reasonable reading could be that you get the benefit of improved evasion, which is taking half damage on a failed save.
So I think how I would read it is
Evasion: allows no damage on a successful save
Improved Evasion: allows half damage on a failed save.
If you only have one of these things, you get the benefit for the feat you have.
Although, thinking about it after, that does put you in the funny situation that, save or fail, you are going to take half...
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wording of Improved Evasion:
"This works like evasion, except that while the rogue still takes no damage on a successful Reflex saving throw against attacks, she henceforth takes only half damage on a failed save. A helpless rogue does not gain the benefit of improved evasion."It seems hard to tell. The wording of the feat doesn't even work if you don't have evasion. It says "while the rogue still takes no damage on a successful reflex saving throw" but the slayer taking the feat isn't "still taking no damage", he is at the point of taking half damage on a successful save. a reasonable reading could be that you get the benefit of improved evasion, which is taking half damage on a failed save.
So I think how I would read it is
Evasion: allows no damage on a successful save
Improved Evasion: allows half damage on a failed save.If you only have one of these things, you get the benefit for the feat you have.
"This works like evasion" provides all of the benefits of evasion save the following qualifier. You get the benefits of both abilities.
Yah, just reading the two abilities, I'd have to agree with blahpers. Just getting access to Improved Evasion gives you the benefit of both.
Hey guys, was looking through the Slayer and just found this...
Rogue and Ninja Advanced Talents: A slayer can select any of the following advanced ninja or rogue talents in place of an advanced slayer talent: deadly sneak, evasion, hunter's surprise, knock-out blow, master of disguise, opportunist, and stealthy sniper. A slayer can select this advanced talent multiple times.
So it looks like instead of getting improved evasion, you are allowed to take evasion as a Slayer Talent.