Weirdo
|
Nimble Shot is indeed a +4 bonus
Point Blank Master will also do this, but it requires Weapon Specialization or the ranger archery combat style, so your player might not be able to qualify.
| H2Osw |
Protoman,
He's been playing an Alchemist/Gunslinger for the better part of a year now, and in our last session I took every AOO against him because he kept shooting the guy 5 feet away. We've told him countless times. I am attempting to be nice and have him come upon such a weapon or piece of equipment if it exists.
The Nimble Shot is exactly what I am looking for, but it's quite pricey, I'm not sure I'm feeling that nice!
| Protoman |
Protoman,
He's been playing an Alchemist/Gunslinger for the better part of a year now, and in our last session I took every AOO against him because he kept shooting the guy 5 feet away. We've told him countless times. I am attempting to be nice and have him come upon such a weapon or piece of equipment if it exists.
The Nimble Shot is exactly what I am looking for, but it's quite pricey, I'm not sure I'm feeling that nice!
Well, some people just gotta learn the hard way. If he's gonna roleplay in combat a reckless alchemist/gunslinger (a combination that's ALREADY crazy accurate/damagey) that shoots from adjacent squares, he might as well take all the hits. Heck, maybe he's acting that way as a subtle way for him to level the playing field with your monsters ;)
| H2Osw |
H2Osw wrote:Well, some people just gotta learn the hard way. If he's gonna roleplay in combat a reckless alchemist/gunslinger (a combination that's ALREADY crazy accurate/damagey) that shoots from adjacent squares, he might as well take all the hits. Heck, maybe he's acting that way as a subtle way for him to level the playing field with your monsters ;)Protoman,
He's been playing an Alchemist/Gunslinger for the better part of a year now, and in our last session I took every AOO against him because he kept shooting the guy 5 feet away. We've told him countless times. I am attempting to be nice and have him come upon such a weapon or piece of equipment if it exists.
The Nimble Shot is exactly what I am looking for, but it's quite pricey, I'm not sure I'm feeling that nice!
Lol, yeah I might agree except he got real pissed about it. His excuse was that he didn't know. I told him, read the core rule book, ignorance is not an excuse. you're lvl 7 nearly 8. I can't baby sit the characters anymore.
| Gwen Smith |
Nimble Shot is indeed a +4 bonus
Point Blank Master will also do this, but it requires Weapon Specialization or the ranger archery combat style, so your player might not be able to qualify.
Point Blank Master is specific to a weapon, so the version from the Ranger archery combat master won't work on a gun without special dispensation from the GM. (The Monk Zen Archer version is specific to longbow or shortbow only.)
Also, make sure to tell your player that throwing alchemist bombs while in melee also provokes, but Close Quarters Thrower will solve that problem.
| Zathyr |
Maybe just remind the character he can take a 5 foot step back for free if he doesn't do any other movement? Unless he's fighting folks with Step Up feats, that will generally do the trick.
Snap Shot is a little weird. With a strict reading, it won't prevent you from provoking an AoO when you're attacking normally. It only stops the AoO when you make an attack of opportunity yourself (which you wouldn't be able to do without the feat).
| Protoman |
Protoman wrote:Lol, yeah I might agree except he got real pissed about it. His excuse was that he didn't know. I told him, read the core rule book, ignorance is not an excuse. you're lvl 7 nearly 8. I can't baby sit the characters anymore.H2Osw wrote:Well, some people just gotta learn the hard way. If he's gonna roleplay in combat a reckless alchemist/gunslinger (a combination that's ALREADY crazy accurate/damagey) that shoots from adjacent squares, he might as well take all the hits. Heck, maybe he's acting that way as a subtle way for him to level the playing field with your monsters ;)Protoman,
He's been playing an Alchemist/Gunslinger for the better part of a year now, and in our last session I took every AOO against him because he kept shooting the guy 5 feet away. We've told him countless times. I am attempting to be nice and have him come upon such a weapon or piece of equipment if it exists.
The Nimble Shot is exactly what I am looking for, but it's quite pricey, I'm not sure I'm feeling that nice!
lol yea the whiner can learn the hard way if he doesn't wanna crack open the Combat chapter of the rulebook.
| Gwen Smith |
Snap Shot is a little weird. With a strict reading, it won't prevent you from provoking an AoO when you're attacking normally. It only stops the AoO when you make an attack of opportunity yourself (which you wouldn't be able to do without the feat).
That's exactly how it works. Snap Shot doesn't change how you provoke an AoO; it just gives you the ability to take AoOs with a ranged weapon.
Weirdo
|
Weirdo wrote:Point Blank Master is specific to a weapon, so the version from the Ranger archery combat master won't work on a gun without special dispensation from the GM. (The Monk Zen Archer version is specific to longbow or shortbow only.)Nimble Shot is indeed a +4 bonus
Point Blank Master will also do this, but it requires Weapon Specialization or the ranger archery combat style, so your player might not be able to qualify.
The archery combat style is not just for bows - it includes Crossbow Mastery. I don't see anything in RAW that prevents a ranger from taking Weapon Focus (some firearm) and PBM (that same firearm).