Spiked destroyer calrification

[akrippler]

Is the free spiked armor attack you receive when bull rushing an offhand attack?
IE does it get half str and half power attack bonuses?

[blackbloodtroll]

No.

The off-hand does not exist, outside of the two-weapon fighting full attack action.

This is not that.

To help you understand, think of it, like an Attack of Opportunity.

Full BAB, and full strength.

[akrippler]

blackbloodtroll wrote:

No.

The off-hand does not exist, outside of the two-weapon fighting full attack action.

This is not that.

To help you understand, think of it, like an Attack of Opportunity.

Full BAB, and full strength.

Thanks for the quick reply. :)

[Scott Wilhelm]

It's not exactly a free attack. It is a bonus attack, but it costs a Swift Action, according to the Feat description in d20pfsrd.

But,

blackbloodtroll wrote:

Full BAB, and full strength.

Yes, that. Plus no off-hand attack penalties.

[Imbicatus]

It's really great when combined with shield slam.

[blackbloodtroll]

Don't forget Merciless Rush.

[Imbicatus]

blackbloodtroll wrote:

Don't forget Merciless Rush.

True, but some might be squeamish at the prospect of Rovagug worship.

[blackbloodtroll]

Imbicatus wrote:

blackbloodtroll wrote:

Don't forget Merciless Rush.

True, but some might be squeamish at the prospect of Rovagug worship.

Not as bad as Lamashtu, or worse, Haggakal.

[Brandark3]

blackbloodtroll wrote:

No.

The off-hand does not exist, outside of the two-weapon fighting full attack action.

This is not that.

To help you understand, think of it, like an Attack of Opportunity.

Full BAB, and full strength.

Sorry to thread necro, but here's a very specific related question where the status as an "off hand" is important, outside the two weapon fighting full attack action.

Two Weapon Rend states that, if you hit with a main and off-hand, you may make a rend damage roll. But what if you are only attacking with one weapon (a shield bash, via shield slam) and make your spiked destroyer attack? Is it then "off hand"?

What if you are attacking with a shield slam and spiked armor, two-weapon fighting, and you MISS with your off-hand spiked armor strike, but you hit with your Spiked Destroyer attack...is it THEN valid to perform a rend?

[zza ni]

if your shield is your main hand attack and the spikes of the other hand the off hand. i don't think anything stops you from deciding to use your off hand weapon for this attack. same as nothing stop you from using an off hand weapon to strike with an attack of opertunity. (some would even say you gain full str as off hands attack are when you use a primery hand attack as well, but that is up to a difrent descusion)

[Brandark3]

zza ni wrote:

if your shield is your main hand attack and the spikes of the other hand the off hand. i don't think anything stops you from deciding to use your off hand weapon for this attack. same as nothing stop you from using an off hand weapon to strike with an attack of opertunity. (some would even say you gain full str as off hands attack are when you use a primery hand attack as well, but that is up to a difrent descusion)

You are misunderstanding the question:

Does the Spiked Destroyer free attack count as an "off hand" or a "main hand" for the purposes of triggering Two Weapon Rend. As stated previously in the thread...it's a free attack, at full BAB, with full STR. But it does not specify if it is an off hand or main hand.