Is the shaman supposed to have spiritual ally?

[doc the grey]

I was just looking over the shaman spell list presented in the ACG and it appears that somehow after 2 beta iterations the shaman still doesn't have access to spiritual ally even though it has feats that seem to reference it having that ability. Is this a typo that got overlooked and has since been errata'd in or is the shaman not supposed to have that ability?

[doc the grey]

Bump

[osopolare]

I noticed the same thing. It seems like the Shaman should.

[Under A Bleeding Sun]

Shaman spell list seems kind of rushed to me. Hopefully this will also be addressed in the upcoming ACG FAQ.

[Albatoonoe]

So I took a look at the spell and this definitely seems like it's more intended for servants of gods. Hell, it even mentions the deity's favored weapon. Just because it says "spiritual" and the Shaman has "spirits" doesn't mean that they go together.

[whew]

Spirit Guide oracles can cast Spiritual Ally and maybe count as having Spirit Magic. Perhaps they are the ones meant to be able to use the Spiritual Guardian feat to enhance Spiritual Ally.

[Eltacolibre]

Spiritual guardian does include spiritual weapon or spiritual ally so...shaman can use the feat as well but only with the spell spiritual weapon. Technically you can get spiritual ally with half-orcs since they can add clerics spells to their shaman list as part of their favored class bonus.

[Kaushal Avan Spellfire]

Albatoonoe wrote:

So I took a look at the spell and this definitely seems like it's more intended for servants of gods. Hell, it even mentions the deity's favored weapon. Just because it says "spiritual" and the Shaman has "spirits" doesn't mean that they go together.

That doesn't make sense though because Oracles don't have to serve any particular god and they can still summon spiritual allies. Heck, clerics that don't worship any one god are not precluded from casting the spell either (and clerics aren't required to be devoted to a deity, as per the last couple of sentences in their Domain class feature entry).

While it's true that Paizo doesn't think certain types of spells belong to one class, the exclusion of spiritual ally from the Shaman list is odd, especially when no other class gains the Spirit Magic class feature (I've read the oracle archetype mentioned by whew and the rules as written do not say the Oracle gains an ability that counts as Spirit Magic for the purposes of feat and prestige class prerequisites).

The only way I can see a shaman fully benefiting from the Spiritual Guardian feat is either a Cleric or Oracle + Shaman multiclass (weird) or the half-orc alt favored class bonus for shaman (which is exceedingly limited, granted for an exceedingly limited feat, but still).

[Anzyr]

Keep in mind that Human Favored Class Bonus can get Spiritual Ally off the Cleric list (though this runs into the Spells Known FAQ, since FCBs are not class features). That being said... ya the Shaman spell list seems mega rushed, since how on earth is Friend with Animals supposed to work, when you don't have Summon Nature's Ally on your class list?