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Ladies and Gentlemen,
Thank you all again for showing up at our last strip mining event! For all of our efforts the Devs found an issue with nodes which hindered our progress in strip mining. After talking with Lee, here is what he had to say:
We think we found the problem; if any one in a category of resources gets to a negative number, that node type would stop spawning (so if you got Sal Amm down to -1 because it was at 1 and you harvested 2 all mineral node stop spawning). We think that's probably what happened with one of the gemstones or Sal Amm and it will be fixed in the next build.
So, I will be hosting this event again! Tomorrow night starting at 6PM Eastern/3PM Pacific/10PM GMT. It will be held in the same place as last time 2 Hexes North West of Sotterhill, the Hill/Highlands Hex near the Pass.
Since this is a new build and there is a lot of stuff to try out, I will be out there for around 5-6 hours. I invite you all to join whenever you feel like, but I ask that you intend to help out more than 30 minutes that you do the following:
1. Keep a log of what level you are in Dowser, Forester, Miner, and Scavenger.
2. You empty your inventory before starting.
3. Every half hour you write out everything you have gotten in your raw resources tab.
4. Write down roughly how long you helped out.
5. You post it in this thread directly, or send me a PM (your choice) with the above information.
Thank you all for reading
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...So, I will be hosting this event again! Tomorrow night starting at 6PM Eastern/3PM Pacific/10PM GMT.
Cheatle. At that time, everyone will be starting without having had time to spend any XP. Is that your intent, or did you want to wait a day or two so that people can do some training?
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1,000 experience is enough to get started.
If we are going to be out there for 5-6 hours, you can make trips back to Sotterhill to up your skills. Mainly what I am looking to do is mine out all the Tier 1 materials, so you really only need to be level 5-7 in a specific gathering skill.
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I just meant at 3:00 tomorrow everybody will be logging in and creating new characters from scratch. I suppose those that are focused can use their XP and be out there a few minutes later, but anyone who's in for the first time might need half an hour or so to figure out where to go.
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I'd love to join you Cheatle but it's smack in the middle of Friday down under :(
Maybe use tomorrow to start character and use Adventure Time without Bonny: Friday 6 Pacific Daylight Time for the stripping. That would be Saturday morning down under, 11 a. m. (sorry the daylight vs standard and ACT vs Australian east coast confuses me. I believe that Canberra is +16 hours off PST).
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I'd love to join you Cheatle but it's smack in the middle of Friday down under :(Maybe use tomorrow to start character and use Adventure Time without Bonny: Friday 6 Pacific Daylight Time for the stripping. That would be Saturday morning down under, 11 a. m. (sorry the daylight vs standard and ACT vs Australian east coast confuses me. I believe that Canberra is +16 hours off PST).
So ATwB is on Saturday in AU being 2 days from now, but strip mining tomorrow night is Friday for AU. Unless when Cheatle said tomorrow he meant Friday night, I guess "tomorrow" can be quite subjective in different time zones. Alpha servers open at 8am Friday for Australia, anyway I'm now quite confused.
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So ATwB is on Saturday in AU being 2 days from now, but strip mining tomorrow night is Friday for AU. Unless when Cheatle said tomorrow he meant Friday night, I guess "tomorrow" can be quite subjective in different time zones. Alpha servers open at 8am Friday for Australia, anyway I'm now quite confused.I'd love to join you Cheatle but it's smack in the middle of Friday down under :(Maybe use tomorrow to start character and use Adventure Time without Bonny: Friday 6 Pacific Daylight Time for the stripping. That would be Saturday morning down under, 11 a. m. (sorry the daylight vs standard and ACT vs Australian east coast confuses me. I believe that Canberra is +16 hours off PST).
Assume everything is Server Time, Pacific Standard Time, GMT-8.
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TEO Cheatle proposed Thursday
Wyspr points out this is not good for for west pacific time zones.
Lam suggests use Friday evening ATw/oB
There need to be crowd decision on this.
We need more countdown timers. They're time zone neutral.
We need to negotiate this and discuss this, timers do not help when we are not all involved.
(I will not be involved, I am still trying to understand mother boards: Ivy vs Sandy vs Haswell VS something I have not discovered. If you have suggestions, NOT HERE! there is a thread for that.
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I just meant at 3:00 tomorrow everybody will be logging in and creating new characters from scratch. I suppose those that are focused can use their XP and be out there a few minutes later, but anyone who's in for the first time might need half an hour or so to figure out where to go.
That'll be me but it will take more like an hour and a half probably.
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I just meant at 3:00 tomorrow everybody will be logging in and creating new characters from scratch. I suppose those that are focused can use their XP and be out there a few minutes later, but anyone who's in for the first time might need half an hour or so to figure out where to go.That'll be me but it will take more like an hour and a half probably.
Well at login you will only have 1000 XP
You will need at least an hour and a half before you have reasonable XP built up.
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We seriously need to agree to only use Golarion time for things in Golarion. Deciphering walls of chrono text is worse than adding 3 (for me).
Just as an experiment can we list only one time and people do one simple arithmetic if they need to? River Kingdoms time, US Pacific, GMT -8.
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I just meant at 3:00 tomorrow everybody will be logging in and creating new characters from scratch. I suppose those that are focused can use their XP and be out there a few minutes later, but anyone who's in for the first time might need half an hour or so to figure out where to go.That'll be me but it will take more like an hour and a half probably.
Especially since, if it takes you half an hour to spend 1k XP, you'll have 2500 more....
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I was going to mention this as well, the fact that at a rate of 5k exp per hour, you could almost stand there and lvl every few mins, atleast until the higher levels.
I will make 2 characters so they both gain exp. 1 for PVP, and 1 pure crafting/gathering again. Will bring the gatherer to this.
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When will we get rid of the archaic remnant of the railroad age and agree about what time it is?
Anyone remember Swatch Time? Took off like Esperanto...
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... local time is far, far older than the railroads
I believe Decius was specifically referring to Time Zones.
I don't expect much change any time soon. Folks like the units they're accustomed to because they're useful. Very few folks spend more time talking to other folks outside of their Time Zone than in it, so any solution wouldn't really improve the lives of the vast majority of folks.
Daylight Saving Time just throws another wrench into the whole thing, and makes it cumbersome, especially if you only need to convert to some kind of Universal Time infrequently.
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And actually, I think we'll eventually have a universally accepted standard "time" when we have enough folks living in space that need to coordinate their activities, and don't have the strong incentive of having the earth's rotation and the sun's corresponding position in the sky heavily influence their preferences.
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And actually, I think we'll eventually have a universally accepted standard "time" when we have enough folks living in space that need to coordinate their activities, and don't have the strong incentive of having the earth's rotation and the sun's corresponding position in the sky heavily influence their preferences.
GMT is now officially been replaced by UT (universal time) and UTC (Temps Universel Coordonné)and is the current universally accepted standard time for aviation, shipping and most military matters.
The general public however are still going to call it GMT and actually use their local time.
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And actually, I think we'll eventually have a universally accepted standard "time" when we have enough folks living in space that need to coordinate their activities, and don't have the strong incentive of having the earth's rotation and the sun's corresponding position in the sky heavily influence their preferences.GMT is now officially been replaced by UT (universal time) and UTC (Temps Universel Coordonné)and is the current universally accepted standard time for aviation, shipping and most military matters.
The general public however are still going to call it GMT and actually use their local time.
Yeah, I'm talking about when the general public will accept and use a universal standard time.
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Yeah, I'm talking about when the general public will accept and use a universal standard time.And actually, I think we'll eventually have a universally accepted standard "time" when we have enough folks living in space that need to coordinate their activities, and don't have the strong incentive of having the earth's rotation and the sun's corresponding position in the sky heavily influence their preferences.GMT is now officially been replaced by UT (universal time) and UTC (Temps Universel Coordonné)and is the current universally accepted standard time for aviation, shipping and most military matters.
The general public however are still going to call it GMT and actually use their local time.
"When we have a substantial population living in orbit" sounds about right to me. Even then, we might have spacefarers using a universal system, and groundsiders still clinging to the Time Zones/Standard/Daylight Savings system.
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I presumed that, but time zones are simply the formalization of local time. Eliminating time zones wouldn't do away with local time. Dawn is dawn, noon is noon...... local time is far, far older than the railroadsI believe Decius was specifically referring to Time Zones.
Nope. Time zones mean 1200 varies from solar noon by at least half an hour in some places (simply because there are two points epsilon distance from each other that are an hour apart; actual maximum variance exceeds the minimum).
Time zones arose as a compromise between using solar time and giving the train engineer a watch that was useful for keeping schedules and keeping at most one train at a time on a given section of track.
Air travel already uses UTC/Zulu time.
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I presumed that, but time zones are simply the formalization of local time. Eliminating time zones wouldn't do away with local time. Dawn is dawn, noon is noon...... local time is far, far older than the railroadsI believe Decius was specifically referring to Time Zones.Nope. Time zones mean 1200 varies from solar noon by at least half an hour in some places (simply because there are two points epsilon distance from each other that are an hour apart; actual maximum variance exceeds the minimum).
Time zones arose as a compromise between using solar time and giving the train engineer a watch that was useful for keeping schedules and keeping at most one train at a time on a given section of track.
Air travel already uses UTC/Zulu time.
I'm not sure where the "Nope" comes in. You have restated my point. Time Zones are a formalization of local time, so that large areas use a single time that is mostly averaged.
My point was that elimination of time zones in favour of what we had before time zones would not result in everyone using a single time, but rather several hundred versions of "1200" instead of 24 (or so*) of them. It would, in fact, be worse than time zones for most purposes.
* once factoring in specialized time zones like Newfoundland and Nepal.
Side note: I'm fully aware of the variance between noon and noon. My own locality never is off by more than 1 hour for part of the year (Only part, because we don't use DST. The other part, we're only off by a few minutes)