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A savage technologist can enter rage as a barbarian, except she gains a morale bonus to Strength and Dexterity instead of Strength and Constitution, and she does not take a penalty to Armor Class. She retains the bonus on Will saving throws. When a barbarian ability would increase the savage technologist's Strength while raging, it increases her Dexterity instead.
I'm slightly confused about the bolded parts. I'm wondering if it's a misprint, and is supposed to say that it increases Dex instead of Con, since a savage technologist's rage doesn't increase it anyway, or if you literally only get a bonus to Dex when the barbarian would gain greater rage and mighty rage.
How it reads:
Lvl 1: +4 Str and Dex, +2 Will
Lvl 11: +4 Str and +6 Dex, +3 Will
Lvl 20: +4 Str and +8 Dex, +4 Will
How I think it should read if it is a misprint:
Lvl 1: +4 Str and Dex, +2 Will
Lvl 11: +6 Str and Dex, +3 Will
Lvl 20: +8 Str and Dex, +4 Will
I can understand only giving the increase to Dex if you were going for a pure ranged build, but I'd rather have the bonus to both, especially since I can see a really good pirate-themed character with this archtype. And if you were to use the archtype with the bloodrager class from the ACG (GM allowance for non-PFS games since the archtype replaces the same abilities from both classes at the same levels) and choose the the Abyssal bloodline, for instance, which grants an increase bonus to Str when raging, would you instead gain that further increase to Dex?
Just thought I'd let the people of the Paizo Boards a chance to help out. I could just be over thinking things, it has happened before, but clarification often helps.
You said this is from the ACG, but this archetype is actually from
Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Technology Guide
I agree it looks like it could be a mistake, however I know there are rarely Errata or FAQs given for softcover books. I hope this is cleared up though it might be intentional. Scaling bonuses to STR and DEX seem outrageously strong for any archer with an adaptive bow.
Sorry, my bad. I have the pdf books and was looking at ACG for something else as I was typing this up and accidentally put it down as the source.
As for the scaling of both Str and Dex, I was thinking more along the lines of the Sword and Gun ability they get, which gives benefits for wielding a gun and light or one-handed weapon (which is almost identical to the Sword and Pistol feat in UC), and would be the way I use the class. So if I'm dual-wielding a scimitar or monowhip in one hand and a sonic pistol in the other, I'd like to have that damage bonus on my melee as well as the damage bonus to my ranged.
Does anybody else have an opinion?
Seems like an error. Should probably be str and dex.
At higher levels the SavTech doesn't seem to lose the Con bonuses granted by Greater Rage. It's definitely an error.
While I agree that there seems to be some wording problems with this feat, I do not believe this is accurate. It says "When a barbarian ability would increase the savage technologist's Strength while raging, it increases her Dexterity instead." and when a barbarian gets greater rage it says
"At 11th level, when a barbarian enters rage, the morale bonus to her Strength and Constitution increases to +6"
Since there isn't a Constitution bonus to begin with, there isn't a bonus to increase so the Con wouldn't go up.
Describing an increase to a non-existent bonus is definitely an error.
My apologies David if I wasn't clear. I wasn't saying the feat doesn't seem to have some wording errors, It does (which I stated). I was just pointing out that it shouldn't be read to increase constitution.