Techslinger starting gun


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I would like to know if this was correct or not for the Techslinger archetype of the gunslinger in the technology guide.

techslinger archetype page wrote:


Techslingers still start play with the black powder blunderbuss, pistol, or rifle granted by the gunsmith class ability
what i call into question is the Rifle, the normal gunslinger starts out with
d20pfsrd wrote:
blunderbuss, musket, or pistol

So does the Techslinger start out with the option to take a gun that is that much better or was that a misprint.


I believe that they meant the musket, which was the precursor to the more modern rifle.

Shadow Lodge

I believe it meant muskets however by raw it does say rifle. In any case i dont think it would be unbalanced. Double musket> Rifle anyway


The range of the rifle being 80 feet vs muskets 40 feet, and the misfire value being only 1 rather then 1 and 2. and reloading it as a move action, or free with rapid reload or alchemical cartage makes it worth asking.

Liberty's Edge

It's obviously a misprint, but FAQ-ed so they can fix it in the next print run.


ElementalXX wrote:
I believe it meant muskets however by raw it does say rifle. In any case i dont think it would be unbalanced. Double musket> Rifle anyway

But the sentence contains a contradiction, so it can only be applied through interpretation, not parsed mechanically.

Shadow Lodge

Pupsocket wrote:
ElementalXX wrote:
I believe it meant muskets however by raw it does say rifle. In any case i dont think it would be unbalanced. Double musket> Rifle anyway
But the sentence contains a contradiction, so it can only be applied through interpretation, not parsed mechanically.

Yes thats also what i think, its pretty clear the intent was to say muskets.

Also theoretically speaking rapid reload doesnt apply to advanced firearms, for whatever reasons


ElementalXX wrote:
Pupsocket wrote:
ElementalXX wrote:
I believe it meant muskets however by raw it does say rifle. In any case i dont think it would be unbalanced. Double musket> Rifle anyway
But the sentence contains a contradiction, so it can only be applied through interpretation, not parsed mechanically.

Yes thats also what i think, its pretty clear the intent was to say muskets.

Also theoretically speaking rapid reload doesnt apply to advanced firearms, for whatever reasons

Seems like an odd error to make. A simple copy/paste gets you "blunderbuss, musket, or pistol" not "black powder blunderbuss, pistol, or rifle". Is seems like they wanted to change something...

Shadow Lodge

graystone wrote:
ElementalXX wrote:
Pupsocket wrote:
ElementalXX wrote:
I believe it meant muskets however by raw it does say rifle. In any case i dont think it would be unbalanced. Double musket> Rifle anyway
But the sentence contains a contradiction, so it can only be applied through interpretation, not parsed mechanically.

Yes thats also what i think, its pretty clear the intent was to say muskets.

Also theoretically speaking rapid reload doesnt apply to advanced firearms, for whatever reasons

Seems like an odd error to make. A simple copy/paste gets you "blunderbuss, musket, or pistol" not "black powder blunderbuss, pistol, or rifle". Is seems like they wanted to change something...

Maybe they wanted to change something and then they changed their minds, or maybe they didnt want to change anything and then they changed their minds.... my head hurts

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