Hunter AC gaining Skirmisher Tricks ?


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Grand Lodge

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Just got my ACG PDF, and I found an easter egg in the Hunter section that I can't really make sense of:

Advanced Class Guide wrote:
A hunter may teach her companion hunter’s tricks from the skirmisher ranger archetype (Pathfinder RPG Advanced Player’s Guide 128) instead of standard tricks.

and

Skirmisher Archetype wrote:
A Ranger can use these tricks a total number of times per day equal to 1/2 his Ranger level + his Wisdom modifier.

It's not really clear to me how this is intended to work. Let's say I'm an 8th level Hunter and teach my 15 Wis tyrannosaurus Vengeance Strike. How many times can he use it?

2? (no ranger level, just Wis Mod)
5? (7 HD/2+Wis Mod)
6? (8 hunter levels/2+Wis Mod)

Let's say I take Sic 'Em instead. Does this work? Does my buddy count as his own Animal Companion? Am I supposed to be his Animal Companion?

Who am I kidding, I'm only going to use this for Cunning Pantomime.

Grand Lodge

THAT IS INTERESTING!

Grand Lodge

What would the handle animal DC to teach them these tricks be?


You take the wisdom modifier and the level of the ranger/hunter, not of the companion for calculating the number of times per day your companion can use these tricks.

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Society Subscriber

Really? I figure it'd go exactly as the rest of the animal tricks, use handle animal to get the animal to use it.
So basically unlimited uses as long as you can make a DC 10 (or 12) handle animal check.

Silver Crusade RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16

Yeah, while Turgan has a good house-rule for how these should be used, there's nothing in the description of the ability suggesting that there are limited uses per day of the tricks for a Hunter's companion.

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Society Subscriber

There are two more threads about this:
Here and here.

So I guess there are more people puzzled about it :)

Silver Crusade RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16

Yeah, I don't know if there's a way to flag threads to be combined, but these three probably should be.


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As written: Unlimited uses per day (because you learn them as handle animal tricks) and your companion is the one who learns/performs them, so stuff like sic 'em doesn't work.

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