Immunity to Poison (Alcohol) and the Drunken Master Monk Archetype.

[prototype00]

So say I'm immune to the deleterious effects of alcohol (-2 to all checks due to sickened) due to a cracked gambodge nodule ioun stone. By RAW do I still benefit from the intake of alcohol due to the drunken master archetype for the monk?

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[Sadurian]

If you are immune to poison (alcohol), I'd say that you cannot benefit from being drunk because you do not get drunk.

The blurb for Drunken Master says 'Powered by strong wine, he uses his intoxication to reach a state where his ki is more potent, if somewhat fleeting.' If you cannot get intoxicated, you cannot reach the state required.

[Kazaan]

Being intoxicated and suffering penalties from being intoxicated are two different things. He can still be drunk but have a good enough head for it or some means to avoid the deleterious effects while still benefiting from normal benefits. In other words, if it was intended for "cannot get sickened from being drunk" to mean you can't use your Drunken Master abilities, they would have explicitly stated that.

[Jeraa]

If you are immune to something, you are totally immune to it. You don't get to ignore the harmful effects, but keep the beneficial ones. If you are immune to alcohol, you are totally immune to alcohol, and that would include getting drunk.

That being said, Pathfinder does not treat alcohol as a poison, but as a drug. And the cracked gambodge nodule ioun stone only makes you immune to one specific poison. It would have no effect on alcohol.

[James Risner]

Jeraa wrote:

If you are immune to something, you are totally immune to it. You don't get to ignore the harmful effects, but keep the beneficial ones. If you are immune to alcohol, you are totally immune to alcohol, and that would include getting drunk.

That being said, Pathfinder does not treat alcohol as a poison, but as a drug. And the cracked gambodge nodule ioun stone only makes you immune to one specific poison. It would have no effect on alcohol.

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[HectorVivis]

Sadurian wrote:

The blurb for Drunken Master says 'Powered by strong wine, he uses his intoxication to reach a state where his ki is more potent, if somewhat fleeting.' If you cannot get intoxicated, you cannot reach the state required.

Never saw this one, was wondering for a moment. I'll let my friend that like immune drunkards know, huhuhu.

If you go a mythic adventure, you could take the mythic feat "drink is life". It doesn't make you immune, but you don't take penalties and let you have some nice bonus.

And if someone would argue that works with the drunken master, I'll just quote a dev on how to balance those feats: It's awesome, "because mythic".