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Ok, so here is the description of Monstrous Mount:
Monstrous Mount
Prerequisite(s): Handle Animal 4 ranks; Ride 4 ranks; divine bond (mount), hunter's bond (animal companion), or mount class feature with an effective druid level of 4.
Benefit(s): You can select an exotic beast from the list of monstrous mounts to serve as your animal companion or special mount. You acquire and advance this creature in the same way as the mount or animal companion detailed in the class feature used as a prerequisite for this feat. You can also dismiss the creature as dictated by your class feature.
You must meet additional prerequisites to choose a creature with an Intelligence score of 3 or higher, as described in each creature's entry.
My question is simply this, if I meet the prerequisites by multiclassing (say with a Druid4/Cavalier1) would my levels stack for the Monstrous Mount? I ask because I know that RAW if a creature isn't on both lists that you cannot stack the effective druid level.
I am going to say Yes.
Druid 4/Cavalier 1 does have the Mount class feature and an effective Druid level of 5, meeting the pre-req.
I don't think the FAQ comes into play.
You can select an exotic beast from the list of monstrous mounts to serve as your animal companion or special mount. You acquire and advance this creature in the same way as the mount or animal companion detailed in the class feature used as a prerequisite for this feat. You can also dismiss the creature as dictated by your class feature.
It gives specific permission to take the monster as an additional animal companion, and doesn't limit that permission to a specific class. So it is effectively added to an AC granting class you possess.
It must be advanced per the class you used to qualify, but you could still stack other AC granting classes as normal.
There's a faq somewher saying for th stacking it needs to btech an animal both classes have access to. Sohei druid 4/cavalier 1 can have a lvl 5 horse or a lvl 4 bear. Because bear isn't on tbe cav list.
Same rule apllies here.
The question isn't the pre-requisite, it is the benefit.
"You can select an exotic beast from the list of monstrous mounts to serve as your animal companion or special mount."
Nothing, in the benefit, would limit the addition of the new creature to only one class' AC list.
So, yes, you have to have Ranger, Paladin, or Cavalier to take the feat.
But I don't see anything that would prevent any other AC granting class from using the benefit from the feat.
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Nothing, in the benefit, would limit the addition of the new creature to only one class' AC list.You acquire and advance this creature in the same way as the mount or animal companion detailed in the class feature used as a prerequisite for this feat.That limits.
Are you saying a multiclassed PC would have to choose which class it worked with, even though it works with both?
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Are you saying a multiclassed PC would have to choose which class it worked with, even though it works with both?
I'm saying there will be table variance because the RAW isn't clear.
The feat only applies to one class of the three class features listed. The mount would be an allowed option for that class, but when multiclassing if the multiclass option had a limited list stacking it would be complicated.
Prerequisites: Animal companion or familiar class feature.
Benefit: The abilities of your animal companion or familiar are calculated as though your class were 4 levels higher, to a maximum effective druid level equal to your character level. If you have more than one animal companion or familiar, choose one to receive this benefit. If you lose or dismiss an animal companion or familiar that has received this benefit, you may apply this feat to the replacement creature.
Special: You may select this feat more than once. The effects do not stack. Each time you take the feat, it applies to a different animal companion or familiar.
By boon companion's language it wouldn't affect any of those other classes and didnt the Dev's say that regardless of what the "name" of the class feature it worked with all of them?
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Nothing, in the benefit, would limit the addition of the new creature to only one class' AC list.You acquire and advance this creature in the same way as the mount or animal companion detailed in the class feature used as a prerequisite for this feat.That limits.
That is the exact line I was worried about, looks like if I wanted a multiclassed character to have a monstrous mount they would need to be at least Cavalier 4th and take Horse Master
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That is the exact line I was worried about, looks like if I wanted a multiclassed character to have a monstrous mount they would need to be at least Cavalier 4th and take Horse MasterNothing, in the benefit, would limit the addition of the new creature to only one class' AC list.You acquire and advance this creature in the same way as the mount or animal companion detailed in the class feature used as a prerequisite for this feat.That limits.
Indeed.
Tis sad that the Beast Rider archetype Cavalier can't qualify for Horse Master (no expert trainer feature). I *really* wish there was the archetype was reworked such that more mount types were possible. Even if the "griffon rider" et al didn't gain mounted flight until later levels (for balance). Why even limit the list, or at least go through all current bestiaries and update the lists accordingly.
My main issue is that I want to build a non-horse medium-sized mounted combat character than can keep the same mount from levels 1 - 20 without needing to swap just for the sake of balance.