Can mystic past lives be applied to Alchemists?

[Gordrun Silverkin]

And if so do extracts count as divine or arcane? Or both? Or neither?

[Ipslore the Red]

Alchemists are not spellcasters and extracts are not spells as far as I am aware, so no.

[Wannazzaki]

Without going and checking every spell for their list i don't think they are either, regardless of where they were drawn from. It's explicitly stated they are technically not magic and as such don't qualify for craft wondrous, for example. You prepare your extracts based on your list and the Samsaran adds spells to it's list which'd allow you to prepare those spells specifically because they were added to your list. Though if you drink a cloudkill extract you'd better be immune to poison effects.

[Weirdo]

Extracts are not spells, so RAW no.

It could work as a houserule, treating extracts as arcane, but you'd need to veto anything that didn't make sense as an extract, like Summon Monster. EDIT: or Cloudkill.

[graystone]

Gordrun Silverkin wrote:

And if so do extracts count as divine or arcane? Or both? Or neither?

They cast no spells so mystic past lives does nothing for them. As to divine/arcane, they are neither.

[Entryhazard]

Weirdo wrote:

Extracts are not spells, so RAW no.

It could work as a houserule, treating extracts as arcane, but you'd need to veto anything that didn't make sense as an extract, like Summon Monster. EDIT: or Cloudkill.

Actually there's an Alchemist archetype that allows you to cast Summon Nature's Ally (and Summon Monster with a feat). Thematically they're justified as bottled monsters that you throw on the field breaking the flask

[LazarX]

Entryhazard wrote:

Weirdo wrote:

Extracts are not spells, so RAW no.

It could work as a houserule, treating extracts as arcane, but you'd need to veto anything that didn't make sense as an extract, like Summon Monster. EDIT: or Cloudkill.

Actually there's an Alchemist archetype that allows you to cast Summon Nature's Ally (and Summon Monster with a feat). Thematically they're justified as bottled monsters that you throw on the field breaking the flask

Samsaran wouldn't do anything for them as they are hard coded ONLY for those specific spells, and already have them available by the archetype.

[Weirdo]

LazarX, Entryhazard wasn't arguing that Mythic Past Life normally works for Preservationists or any alchemists, just that if you decided to allow it as a house-rule, you could creatively flavour some spells that don't appear to lend themselves to extracts.

I'd forgotten about the Preservationist.