Summoners and Dark Magic Affinity


Rules Questions

Silver Crusade

If Summoners gain Summon Monster "X" as a spell-like ability, and this ability gets stronger the higher level the summoner is, does Dark Magic Affinity mean that a level 2 Summoner can now cast Summon Monster II instead of Summon Monster I?

Logic Chain:
Spell-like ability = casting the spell, Summon Monster has "Evil" descriptor if you summon Fiendish creatures.

Dark Magic Affinity reads:
Whenever you cast a spell with the [evil] descriptor, you act as if you were one level higher for the purpose of determining that spell’s effects.


No, they would get an increased caster level.
Keep in mind that Summon Monster I, II, III, etc are all different spells altogether.

Example
You cast Summon Monster I at lv1, and it lasts 1 minute/level, with the feat it would last 2 minutes.
Lets say you cast it at lv5, it would last 6 minutes.

The Exchange

you do not get a character level increase, but a caster level increase. confusing I know. the summons will stay around longer is pretty much it.

Grand Lodge

For the Summon Monster spells it means your summons last longer only since that is the only thing that is affected by your level on these spells.


As for the actual question of whether it works on spell-like abilities, it's open to interpretation, but this is the sort of effect that should work.

Silver Crusade

shadowkras wrote:

No, they would get an increased caster level.

Keep in mind that Summon Monster I, II, III, etc are all different spells altogether.

Example
You cast Summon Monster I at lv1, and it lasts 1 minute/level, with the feat it would last 2 minutes.
Lets say you cast it at lv5, it would last 6 minutes.

Keep in mind the verbiage, it doesn't say "Caster Level" 1 level higher, it just says "Level"

As an example, the Favored class option for Bards states that you "Choose one bardic performance; treat the bard as +1/2 level higher when determining the effects of that performance."

This is obviously interpreted as "Treat as a 9th level bard when using the Inspire Courage ability"

Just to be even more clear, the Summon Monster ability isn't "Gain Summon Monster II at 3rd level" it is the same ability you got at 1st level only it is stronger now that you are higher level.

I will gladly accept the final ruling on this but I really don't see how it is different.

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