Wyroot Scimitar?

[FrodoOf9Fingers]

Second question regarding the Ironwood spell:

Can a wyroot scimitar be made, and then used when the Ironwood spell is active on it?

Of the five special woods (Darkwood, Whipwood, Living Steel, Wyroot, and Greenwood), only 2 mention what happens when you cast Ironwood on them: Whipwood stops being ridged and loses the CMD to sunder, and Greenwood doubles the length that ironwood (among other spells) are effected.

So, in essence my question is: Can I have a working scimitar with the properties of Wyroot, by using the craft skill (and/or shape wood) and the ironwood spell?

[blahpers]

I assume that you'd be using wood shape to make the wooden scimitar out of wyroot, then casting ironwood on the result? RAW, I don't see why not.

In my game, though, the weapon would lose the wyroot properties. Given the rules for whipwood and greenwood, I suspect that ironwood is implied to be a distinct substance that loses the properties of its original material and that the writer of the other wood descriptions simply didn't think about it. But you could still do it.

[blackbloodtroll]

Transformative Wyroot Scimitar/Club?

[FrodoOf9Fingers]

I didn't think greenwood would lose it's qualities under the ironwood spell... So hmm..

[blahpers]

Hmm, good point. In that case, go nuts.

[Katydid]

Could I ask what you were planning to do with it, specifically? (I mean, besides 'magus with a scimitar') ;p

So no weapon damage on criticals, but a lot more uses of things like Arcane Strike, Arcane Edge, Prescient Strike and Bane Blade?

Or... Greater Arcane Redoubt for Evasion and Improved Evasion? Dispelling Strike, Reflection?

[Zathyr]

Wyroot weapons do normal critical hit damage. The fact that the weapons are sucking some of the opponent's life out in the process is what doesn't deal (extra) damage. There was a clarification from James Jacobs about that a while back.

edit: Oh yeah, as for the OP: basically, ask your GM. I don't think the material is intended for ironwooded wyroot scimitars, personally, but you're delving into the gray depths where the rules dare not tread.

[beej67]

FrodoOf9Fingers wrote:

Second question regarding the Ironwood spell:

Can a wyroot scimitar be made, and then used when the Ironwood spell is active on it?

Of the five special woods (Darkwood, Whipwood, Living Steel, Wyroot, and Greenwood), only 2 mention what happens when you cast Ironwood on them: Whipwood stops being ridged and loses the CMD to sunder, and Greenwood doubles the length that ironwood (among other spells) are effected.

So, in essence my question is: Can I have a working scimitar with the properties of Wyroot, by using the craft skill (and/or shape wood) and the ironwood spell?

Seems to me like the very reason the ironwood spell was invented. It's a high level spell, after all, and you have to recast it every so many days to keep it on the sword.

[FrodoOf9Fingers]

Essentially, yeah, I was looking for alternatives to being stuck with just a 19-20x2 weapon with wyroot for the magus. Kensai can burn a lot of arcane pool quickly... so a wyroot weapon would be nice :)

[beej67]

Check on this, as you may not be able to double your shocking grasp crit damage if it's dealt with a wyroot weapon.

I had a brutal little magus I played a while back. He was a gnome, who would add the "vicious" and "merciful" qualities to his weapon, for +3d6 nonlethal damage every swing, and 1d6 nonlethal damage to himself in the process. Then he'd bludgeon all his unconscious foes to death after the fight was over with a wyroot club, auto-critting them (since that's how coup de grace works) and earning his arcane points back.