Question about goblin family life


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I remember reading in the Goblins players companion that goblins are born with a full set of teeth,are fairly self sufficient and are raised communally in cages.So do they even need to suckle their young? Do the females even have mammary glands?

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So your question is "Do goblin girls have boobies?" phrased to not look creepy.....
The answer is they do if your GM wants them to.

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Judging by the explicitly female Goblin illustrations in We Be Goblins...not prominent ones. As mammals, they almost certainly do suckle their young somewhat (as do most mammals, even those whose young are born with teeth, it imparts several immune system boosters from the mother and is generally a very good plan, biologically), but most mammals lack anything more than nipples when not actively nursing, and goblins seem to fall into that category, at least mostly.


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I would have to assume not. Pretty sure the general version of goblin child reering goes:

Babies is born, generally ignored for a while.

Babies starts biting everyone's ankles, gets to be a problem action needs to be taken against.

Babies are rounded up, probably with tongs, and crammed into the open baby cages.

While in there, all the screaming starving babies in the other cages remind those with the tongs that oh yeah, these things need to eat, don't they.

Half the tong carries space out and do something else, while the others bring by a box full of rats or something to throw at all the caged babies.

Those babies that don't starve, and aren't cannibalized by other babies eventually work out how to unlatch their cages, or just plain full on outgrow them, and generally make a break for it, joining goblin society, such as it is, by getting distracted by whatever crazy things the adults are throwing together or trying to catch small birds to eat.

Presumably, boredom and distraction lead to fresh pregnancies often enough that people make cage runs frequently enough to sustain population growth.

That said though, I suppose they might have totally vestigial mammary glands. Humanoids generally tend to, they're probably derived from another humanoid race one way or another, and a lot of them worship Lamashtu. She's all about things having things there's no sensible reason for growing out of them.


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Fake Healer wrote:

So your question is "Do goblin girls have boobies?" phrased to not look creepy.....

The answer is they do if your GM wants them to.

I am gay, boobies ain't exactly my thing.


Thomas Jones wrote:
I am gay, boobies ain't exactly my thing.

Your orientation has nothing to do with the question. You did, essentially, beat around the "do female goblins have functioning and pronounced breasts?" bush.

In Jade Regent, Rise of the Runelords, some PFS scenarios, and the Free RPG Day modules, females are nearly indistinguishable from males. Goblins, as humaniods in Golarion tend to keep to human anatomy, probably do have goblin boobies. They probably aren't much different from yours; barring surgical removal, you probably have some form of breast with nipple despite how they'll never be able to nurse an infant. Males have breast tissue despite their lack of boobies(!). If nothing else, it's a vestigial erogenous area for those little goblins.

Do they nurse? Why not? In species that nurse, teeth have little bearing on how long offspring suckle. Children have the ability to nurse from glands that don't belong to their mothers; goblins could easily nurse whatever caged goblin baby is most convenient as they experience this discomfort of lactation. They could have some class of wet nurses, too. Even in humans, teeth don't prevent nursing. (As many nursed children, I was nursed until I started biting, not until my teeth grew in.)


downerbeautiful wrote:


Your orientation has nothing to do with the question. You did, essentially, beat around the "do female goblins have functioning and pronounced breasts?" bush.

Wow, I guess you are right. I wrote ONE whole sentence before I got to the question I was sure beating around the bush


Thomas Jones wrote:
downerbeautiful wrote:


Your orientation has nothing to do with the question. You did, essentially, beat around the "do female goblins have functioning and pronounced breasts?" bush.

Wow, I guess you are right. I wrote ONE whole sentence before I got to the question I was sure beating around the bush

Dude, relax. If you intended something else, that's not how at least Fake Healer and I read it. It wasn't the preface sentence that implied "Do goblins have boobies?" it was the questions themselves. We're not saying your question is invalid, perverted, or stupid. I, myself, check out the art on female goblins, wondering if they have breasts, and that habit very much predated this thread.

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Their faces are not shaped well for protruding breasts, and thus I doubt their females would have human like boobs. They could still have mammary glands that are used to feed newborns, just not protruding ones.

And hogs are born with sharp teeth, making them a good animal to look at and compare when looking at if and how the mothers fed young. Doing so could show that mothers might get a few bites, but are still effective in feeding young.

I am not an expert but I imagine that the babies are able to feed themselves and eat solids pretty quickly. The baby pins could be places used to teach young to find food on their own by digging up worms and catching birds, but I also see them as a way to teach young to be sneaky and crafty. The best goblin young would figure out how to escape and steal food without being caught. The smart ones would be able to get back to the pin before anyone notices. The pin would also weed out the weak. If you can't feed yourself, you die and feed the others.

This is bringing to mind the show Rugrats. They were really crafty in their schemes and always got out of the pin.


All mammals suckle their young.
Goblins are mammals.
QED.


Most of them don't have prominent breasts except while breastfeeding


Chief Cook and Bottlewasher wrote:
Most of them don't have prominent breasts except while breastfeeding

Yes - goblins are mammals, so they have mammary glands. Whether they have permanent breasts is uncertain at this point. :)

The pic of a goblin version of Valeros/Seoni/Merisiel/Ezren in the Pathfinder comic shows the goblin girls with breasts, but perhaps that's humorous artistic license. I quite like the idea that goblins don't have visible breasts, except when suckling, and that the sexes are normally indistinguishable by humans.


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'S'alright. I can't tell the difference between male and female pinkskins, either.


S'mon wrote:

All mammals suckle their young.

Goblins are mammals.
QED.

"Goblins are mammals" may be an unfounded assumption. We know that they're broadly humanoid in shape, and that they give live birth, but that's all. If their creation myth is accurate (as it may well be in such a universe), they didn't even evolve but rather sprang directly from blood spilled by the barghest gods.


S'mon wrote:
goblin version of Valeros/Seoni/Merisiel/Ezren in the Pathfinder comic

In where was that! I must get it!


Bunnyboy wrote:
S'mon wrote:
goblin version of Valeros/Seoni/Merisiel/Ezren in the Pathfinder comic
In where was that! I must get it!

I spent a fair while looking for this but I couldn't find it - it's not in the Pathfinder comic. It might be in the Goblins comic, but I could have sworn I've seen the art in a book as well.

Edit: Found it! Valeros and Seoni are also in Quests & Campaigns.


Goblins, like echidnas, are nipple-less and weep milk through pores on their skin. Picture that the next time you go dunking your Oreos in milk.

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Bunnyboy wrote:
S'mon wrote:
goblin version of Valeros/Seoni/Merisiel/Ezren in the Pathfinder comic
In where was that! I must get it!

I saw it in the covers reproduced in Pathfinder #1 Dark Waters Rising.

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