Wings of Air + Expeditious Retreat?

[Mal_Luck]

I'm playing a Sylph in an upcoming game and I was wondering how the Wings of Air racial feat might interact with the Expeditious Retreat spell.

Wings of Air gives the Sylph PC a supernatural flight speed equal to their Base Speed. Expeditious Retreat increases a character's Base Speed by 30ft, but specifically mentions not effecting other means of movement (such as flight). But, since Wings of Air is based off the land speed this restriction seems to be a bit fuzzy.

So my question: since the Sylph's Wings of Air supernatural flight speed is based directly off their base land speed does that mean it can receive the +30ft boost from Expeditious Retreat even though it normally wouldn't?

[SlimGauge]

I'd be fairly certain that Expeditious Retreat's explicit statement that it has no effect on other modes of movement is fairly definitive. If that explicit exclusion wasn't there, you'd have a case.

[Serum]

SlimGauge wrote:

I'd be fairly certain that Expeditious Retreat's explicit statement that it has no effect on other modes of movement is fairly definitive. If that explicit exclusion wasn't there, you'd have a case.

Agreed.

The Travel Domain's power, for example, would increase your fly speed, since it doesn't have that exclusion.

[LazarX]

Mal_Luck wrote:

I'm playing a Sylph in an upcoming game and I was wondering how the Wings of Air racial feat might interact with the Expeditious Retreat spell.

Wings of Air gives the Sylph PC a supernatural flight speed equal to their Base Speed. Expeditious Retreat increases a character's Base Speed by 30ft, but specifically mentions not effecting other means of movement (such as flight). But, since Wings of Air is based off the land speed this restriction seems to be a bit fuzzy.

So my question: since the Sylph's Wings of Air supernatural flight speed is based directly off their base land speed does that mean it can receive the +30ft boost from Expeditious Retreat even though it normally wouldn't?

The spell is EXTEREMELY clear on what it effects, and what it doesn't. No form of flight speed, no matter how obtained is boosted. So yes, you can have a situation where your land speed IS greater than your flight speed. As I recall some bestiary critters have that configuration as well.

[Elaserdar]

What about a monk's fast movement?