Darkleaf Leaf Armor

[Drake Brimstone]

Leaf armor is always Masterwork and is identical to Studded Leather armor except it contains no metal. Listed price is 500g

Darkleaf can be used in place of leather and costs +750g for light armor and is always masterwork, with the masterwork price included in the listing.

So, would Darkleaf Leaf armor cost 1100g (500 + (750 - 150)) or 1250g (500 + 750)

[aboniks]

I'd say 1100g, given the way Darkleaf is written.

There's the more fundamental issue of whether you can combine those two things, given the wording of Darkleaf, but that's a DM call at the end of the day;

Leaf armor may be statistically equivalent to studded leather, but it's not "primarily constructed of leather, fur, or hide"...it's made of leaves.

That being the case, Darkleaf Leaf armor is a debatable combination.

Not that I intend to debate it, but some DMs might. I'd allow it.

[Laif]

I think it's Leaf or Dark Leaf.
Like Mithral or steel or gold or whatever.

[LazarX]

Drake Brimstone wrote:

Leaf armor is always Masterwork and is identical to Studded Leather armor except it contains no metal. Listed price is 500g

Darkleaf can be used in place of leather and costs +750g for light armor and is always masterwork, with the masterwork price included in the listing.

So, would Darkleaf Leaf armor cost 1100g (500 + (750 - 150)) or 1250g (500 + 750)

As it says in the Darkleaf description.

Items not primarily constructed of leather, fur, or hide are not meaningfully affected by being partially made of darkleaf cloth.

Leaf Armor by it's very designation, can not be further modified by making it "darkleaf". As it is not made "primarily of leather".

[Shfish]

Yeah this is one where the fluff really does bear on the item this time "Druidic elves use alchemical compounds to treat special leaves used in crafting armor for their warriors."
So, no you can't stack those.

But unless you are wanting +7 max dex, why not just do Darkleaf lamellar leather? Its +4 ac and will have +6 max dex, it really evens out to the same.

[Kazumetsa Raijin]

Shfish wrote:

Yeah this is one where the fluff really does bear on the item this time "Druidic elves use alchemical compounds to treat special leaves used in crafting armor for their warriors."

So, no you can't stack those.

But unless you are wanting +7 max dex, why not just do Darkleaf lamellar leather? Its +4 ac and will have +6 max dex, it really evens out to the same.

Unless you're a Finesse build. Then that's -1 attack and damage :P

Edit: Or if you have Snake Fang... that's one less AoO you can make :(

[Drake Brimstone]

Missed the flavor text that explained that Leaf armor was made from leaves. I thought it was a method of layering the leather instead of using a solid sheet.

Well, not being a druid, I'll just use Darkleaf Studded Leather.

[KainPen]

Kazumetsa Raijin wrote:

Shfish wrote:

Yeah this is one where the fluff really does bear on the item this time "Druidic elves use alchemical compounds to treat special leaves used in crafting armor for their warriors."

So, no you can't stack those.

But unless you are wanting +7 max dex, why not just do Darkleaf lamellar leather? Its +4 ac and will have +6 max dex, it really evens out to the same.

Unless you're a Finesse build. Then that's -1 attack and damage :P

Edit: Or if you have Snake Fang... that's one less AoO you can make :(

Max Dex does not work like that Raijin, All it does is limit the maximum amount of AC mod you can get to ac and touch ac. your init, reflexs ,cmd skill checks aoo are not affected by it. Otherwise you be talking double penalties on skill checks. So it does even out for total ac, but touch and flat footed end up different.

[LazarX]

Drake Brimstone wrote:

Missed the flavor text that explained that Leaf armor was made from leaves. I thought it was a method of layering the leather instead of using a solid sheet.

Well, not being a druid, I'll just use Darkleaf Studded Leather.

Sometimes the flavor text IS important.