Hi, im making a lvl 8 cleris who will be a necromancer. However, i need the Command Undead spell, and i dont want to take the LAW domain neither dont want to spend all my gold on wands ill spend to quick...
Anyone know some other good option of how to access Command Undead spell?
Thanks
I have no idea how to get that exact spell.
For advice, might I suggest you take a look at the Undead Lord cleric archetype from Ultimate Magic? It has a few neat abilities.
Im thinking maybe possible get a staff of command undead ? but no idea how that would be priced. or maybe an intelligent item that can cast 2nd level spells. A question for a true loremaster!
You're going to have to get it through a magic item... Or multiclass. Inevitable is the only domain that grants the spell.
Edit: Off topic, but I only read checked this thread because your name is awesome.
do you have any good idea for magic item that could grant it except an intelligent one ?
thanks :=)
Well, it is a second lvl spell, anyone with Create(whatever) feat(s) could make a wand/staff of Command Undead. Probably be around 4,500 gold for the wand with 5 days to make.
You could always just invest a bit more in you CHA, take leadership and attract a Necromancer wizard as a follower.
The Undead Lord is TRAP. Stay aweeeeey.
But yes, take the Command Undead Feat. Use your mostly useless Channel for it instead of the spell.
This might not be what you want, but I've found a way to get a number of necromancy spells that aren't on your spell list to be on your spell list.
The Agent of the Grave prestige class from Pathfinder #45-Broken Moon has quite a bit of really thematic necromancer powers, one being the ability to add necromancy spells from other lists to add to yours.
The problem? You don't get it until your fifth level in the prestige class, and it requires at 5 ranks in Know (Arcana) and Know (Religion).
This means that while you'll be getting really cool abilities, you won't be able to cast Command Undead for another two levels of this guys' life.
Now, if you take a look at it, it might still be for you, so just take a look.
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/prestige-classes/other-paizo/a-b/agent-of-t he-grave
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It does feel unjustifiably weird that Clerics can't get Command Undead as a spell.
Sure, they have it via Channel, but what then is the problem with having it via Spell?
There is a different set of optimization for each, and they use different stats, but the option should be available.
I guess Paizo doesn't want Good/Positive Energy Channeling Clerics getting Command Undead, but they could just have Cleric spell whose fixed is tied to whether you Channel Positive/Negative.
(Although that leaves things open to using UMD to Emulate Alignment to use a Scroll, etc... hm...)
Anyways, Agent of the Grave seems solid but slow to get into, another option is to dip 1 level in Undead Bloodline Sorceror,
whose Arcana lets you use Mind-Affecting spells to affect Undead, so all Cleric Enchantment spells now work.
If you go Cross-Blooded Archetype you could also pick up Fey Bloodline Arcana, boosting Compulsion DCs by +2 for synergy there.
Doesn't quite create the long-term minions exactly the same, but it might serve you for your purposes.
For Sorceror, I would just pick up utility spells like Arcane Shield Spell, and other stuff that is still useful with 1 Caster Level.
If you have a 2nd level Arcane SLA, you can instantly go into Mystic Theurge if you want to progress both casting classes.
For being a necromancer, I find Gravewalker Witch to be the superior option. It gets both Animate Dead and Command Undead, which I consider to be key and it's 8th level ability is both incredibly flavorful and powerful.
The command undead spell is inferior to the feat anyway.
The feat is more of a "Dominate Undead" available at 1st level.
You have that backwards... extremely backwards. The feat wakes up every morning wishing it could be the Command Undead spell and then cries itself to sleep every night realizing that PF murdered the ability and that it is limited by HD cap.