Can Flurry of Blows and Spell Combat be done in the same round?

[FanaticRat]

I was going about resurrecting a monk/magus character I had once played for another game, because I found the character quite fun, but when doing so someone mentioned that I'd be able to flurry and spell combat in the same turn, which I had assumed I'd not be able to do.

However I'm unsure about this. His argument is that flurry is a full-attack action and spell combat is a full-round action that gives a full attack, but I'm unsure what the difference is. I just want to clarify if Flurry can be done with Spell Combat or not. If so, it would make the character a lot stronger...assuming I could actually hit anything with all those penalties.

[Nawtyit]

RAW, I don't think so because a full attack action is a type of full round action, and you can't take two full round actions in one round.
RAI, I think so because flurry is basically just TWF without weapons, with monk weapons, or a combination of both. I might rule that, if you were doing spell combat with a monk weapon, it might be ok. But this is the rules forum, and my opinion doesn't matter. :p

[Artoo]

Quote:

As a full-round action, he can make all of his attacks with his melee weapon at a –2 penalty and can also cast any spell from the magus spell list with a casting time of 1 standard action (any attack roll made as part of this spell also takes this penalty)

Spell Combat does not allow a full attack. It allows "All of your attacks". I'm quite confident that it is neither RAI or RAW to use Spell Combat and Flurry of Blows together.

[FanaticRat]

Why specifically with monk weapons and not unarmed strike? I'm curious as to your rationale.

[MechE_]

While I don't have time to read through the abilities, I'm with Artoo on this one - the two seem mutually exclusive.

[Nawtyit]

Can you use TWF with spellcombat?
FanaticRat, my mistake. No reason that, if you could do it, you couldn't also use unarmed strikes.

[Szantharis]

What about flurry of maneuvers with spell combat?

[FanaticRat]

Hm, I was curious, given the FAQ that said that Spell Combat counts as a full attack for the purposes of haste and other effects. I guess it depends on what 'other effects' counts as, but I guess the argument so far is against it.

Well it wasn't like I'd be able to hit anything anyway...

[Kazumetsa Raijin]

FanaticRat wrote:

Well it wasn't like I'd be able to hit anything anyway...

LOL. I feel your pain my friend.