so i'm looking for a way to gain both an animal companion and a familiar, which can both be effective on their own.
My idea is to get my familiar the "Master of your kind" feat, then to have him scurry around with his friend
the companion is to be an ape, the familiar is to be a monkey...
Furthermore I want to be as martial as possible here, with a bit of stealth...
I'm going vanara
There is a class called beast master that focusses on animal companion and is mostly martial with no spells.
Then eldritch heritage for familiar.
Or mad dog barbarian.
Or druid with one of those third party archetypes that removes spells.
If you can find a way to get a domain, you can take fur and get a companion at 4th level.
If a DM will let you take a wild blooded as an eldritch heritage, you can get a companion that way too.
You're monkeying with the system :-)
What's your base character?
You could go druid and get eldritch heritage then boon companion and improved familiar (celestial monkey familiar!). Expensive feat-wise, but doable...
I've been eying the ape shaman Druid.... But my class is up in the air at this point.
Ultimately i want to be able to set up ambushes from the treetops/ceilings... and practice all sorts of GORRILLA WARFARE ;)
But sylvan is unfortunately off the table because as the DM says "It also counts as an arcana so you can't gain it"
Ya. That's the problem with it...
If you go with druid, you get wild shape and using Packlord, you can forgoe the familiar and just have a Gorilla Army. :)
Ya. That's the problem with it...
If you go with druid, you get wild shape and using Packlord, you can forgoe the familiar and just have a Gorilla Army. :)
All with improved grab? GET YOUR HANDS OFF OF ME YOU DAMNED DIRTY APES!
A Sylvan sorcerer could start with an ape companion and take the eldrich heritage (arcana) feats for a monkey familiar.
A Mad Dog barbarian could do the same, as well as a Beastmaster ranger.
With the racial penalty to Cha though it is tough to have 13 Cha if Cha is not your priority. Just play an ape shaman druid and call it a day.
Mad dog barbarian or ranger might be more up mt alley here,
Also side note for the ape shaman... it can't take the Monkey domain XD
Falconer Ranger has a full animal companion. Eldritich Heritage Acrane for a familiar. If you go Falconer/Trapper you are a fully martial class with two pets.
I think you're closest, maybe i'll go skirimisher instead though, it seems to pack more of a punch than trapper
Inquisitor with the animal domain. Take boon companion, skill focus knowledge nature, and Eldritch arcane to get your monkey familiar.
With 13 Charisma and 4 feats you could get both Animal Companion (Nature Soul, Animal Ally) and Familiar (Skill Focus: Knowledge (any one) and Eldritch Heritage:Arcane Bloodline)
If you are fighter 4 feats is an expensive but not impossibile
With 13 Charisma and 4 feats you could get both Animal Companion (Nature Soul, Animal Ally) and Familiar (Skill Focus: Knowledge (any one) and Eldritch Heritage:Arcane Bloodline)
If you are fighter 4 feats is an expensive but not impossibile
None of those feats are combat feats, so no love there.
Still doable by level 5 for a human or half elf.
Mad dog barbar with eldrich herritage can have both at level 3 jaut make sure you have cha 13 and you are good to go.
You rage will be delayed but you will still be a great melee monkey.
Five feats might be a bit pricy How would a cleric with monkey/animal domains do?
I was looking heavily at inquisitor (As mentioned by Bignorsewolf) but I have no clue how to build one effectively
though the teamwork feats might be really nice with a valet monkey
human or half-elf, ranger or mad dog barbarian would be easiest/best way to build a martial with both (as others have mentioned- take skill focus/eldritch heritage for the familiar, and boon companion if you went ranger to get full progression companion). anything else you do will be becoming less martial.